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Welcome Alberto, I'm very excited about the direction BR is taking the club. I feel it may take another season before we start to see the full benefits of this transfer window. The brand of football I can see us playing is going to be exciting.
Forever_Red_LFC
23rd Jun 2013 11:01
gemboy
23rd Jun 2013 11:57
""he is a little like Juan Mata...he has excellent technical capabilities,is very creative with a good eye for goal...he is more direct than the Chelsea player! Good enough for me! Bienvenido Luis Alberto! YNWA!"
Firepickle
23rd Jun 2013 12:05
"goal.com May as well ask Liverdinner for his thoughts"
dan41
23rd Jun 2013 12:20
"sounds like a lot to look forward to, but it's also important that we stay patient and don't expect too much. some players need time to adapt. read henderson or lucas"
mpoga
23rd Jun 2013 12:45
"gve br a 10yr contract "
classANDsuccess
23rd Jun 2013 12:45
"dan41- Be patient-have you read some comments on this site?! If we're not signing Messi, then FSG are out and rodgers is a joke and so on, in spite of the evidence that we seem to be building a great future and have a currently good team! "
BoxerShortEats
23rd Jun 2013 12:55
" Forever_Red_LFC 23rd Jun 2013 11:01 Agree with you... I am not expecting any miracles next season but i am optimistic about the future. BR so far has been doing impressive work."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 13:11
""although he is still young and will need time to adapt"...stop me if you think that you have heard that one before."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 13:12
"FSG PROFIT WATCH . TV RIGHTS INCOME-60.6m ANDY CARROL INCOME 15.5M.player spend- Alberto-6m, Toure-0.FSG PROFIT ON TV AND PLAYERS ALONE- 70.1m. INVESTMENT IN CLUB FACILITIES- ZERO "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 13:17
"The reason players need time to adapt is beacuse they are cheap and FSG are clawing back their acquisition costs and will sell the club on at a pure profit. As of this writing, they are looking at a 70m profit up on last year alone. Even the dumbest of the deluded mid table fans can't argue that FSG bought the club cheap. The same who lapped up the "tiki taka" talk last season! LOL!!"
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 13:23
"Greedy yank- i see your in a good mood again........."
MaggBishop
23rd Jun 2013 13:47
"Greedy_yank stop being daft. Liverpool has been in a pretty bad financial position in last 5 yrs and that's something that needs to change, not just at liverpool but in most clubs. What's going on at liverpool is something to be proud of especially if it works out, unlike the city and Chelsea way!!"
cav632
23rd Jun 2013 13:50
"Greedy Yank,we done poor in most cup comps last year? The club was days from bankrupcy?All you talk about is what the owners have made profit? The owners have started to put money in this season lets see where this takes us, start supporting the team the manager and the owners, we all want to win, don't need no blue haired rinse people rocking the boat now we are in calmer waters? "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 14:00
"We have become a McDonalds franchise. There were over 120 bidders fro LFC and Broughton chose this shower. If you are proud of that, good for you. Personally, if the club needs rebuilding, then FSG should put the revenues back into the club, not their own pockets. So far, in transfers, they are looking at 70m profit.Why not be real supporters and support the club, not FSG. "
malick77
23rd Jun 2013 14:01
"Welcome. As excited I am about these signings we still need a good strong CB and some steel in the middle of the park or else we will have the same problems against teams likes stoke/west ham"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 14:02
"Centrecircle1000 23rd Jun 2013 13:23..how long have you worked for FSG? They have you you working Sundays?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 14:03
"cav632 23rd Jun 2013 13:50..Get your facts straight and stop talking crap. "
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 14:34
"Greedy Yank, you're forgetting about Aspas (£7m) and Mignolet (£9m) and the transfer window isn't even open yet. Why don't you tot it all up at the end rather than the beginning? Anyway, why shouldn't the owners make small profit? It's better than the alternative."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 14:41
"81-82-83-84 23rd Jun 2013 14:34...toting it up as I go along if that's alright with you and Mignolet has not been confirmed. The owners shouldn't be taking a profit because they say we need "rebuilding", when we are compeive, then they can take a profit. 70m on a club that cost 300m is hardly small."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 14:44
""Anyway, why shouldn't the owners make small profit? It's better than the alternative."..the alternative of being sold to someone who can afford to plough profits back in to the club and afford to compete you mean? Wake up."
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 14:46
"Greedy yanks- look lad its clear u dont like FSG and to a certain extent you have a point abt profit but the transfer window is closed yet, so we cant total it all up yet!! Also theres the suarez situation to resolve which could well change things.but at least post sometg positive from time to time abt our club- so im been polite to u at the moment!!!!!! "
hester91
23rd Jun 2013 14:46
"sounds decent! hope hes not another riera tho"
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 14:58
"Greedy Yank, not a day goes by without someone moaning about the fact we don't have sugardaddy owners like Chelsea or City, but we don't, so get over it. If the club was owned by the fans, that might be the ideal, but again, it's not, so what is the point of belabouring the same point over and over?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 14:59
"Centrecircle. Lets get this straight. I don't give a monkeys whether you are polite or not. This is a free country and I will think and post what I like. Sick to death of the brainwashed on here being positive about nothing.When some positive happens, then I will celebrate it. But I am not going to throw party over a 6m unproven signing. Got that? "
Newgeneration
23rd Jun 2013 15:02
"greedy-yank you don't half talk crap. making out like you know whats going on in the club. What happened to including wages (all staff, not just players) to your profit and loss analysis, what about other variable costs that maybe attrituable to the club? Until you know all the facts don't give half the answers. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:03
"81-82-83-84 23rd Jun 2013 14:58..The point is "the customer is king" and the "product" is crap. The football is crap mate, hence 7th, no cups and finishing behind the bitters. All the while you are happy for the owners to take a profit to spend on Baseball or Yachts. What kind of fan are you?"
HabeshaKop
23rd Jun 2013 15:05
"One for the future he has a wonderful touch and is a joy to watch."
Newgeneration
23rd Jun 2013 15:16
"Greedy-yank, my point completely, you just including part of the p and l, not the whole p and l. hence it is only half truths, not the whole picture. "
Yaweezy
23rd Jun 2013 15:17
"Greedy_yank You seriously need some lessons in logic. Only cheap players need time to adapt? Torres at Chelsea-£50m, Andy Carroll LFC-£35m, Shevchenko-£30m, Downing- £20m, Garry Birtles - 1980 manu -£1.25m (£30m in today's money), Veron 2001- £28m. Coutinho and Sturridge were cheap but fit in immediately. Jelavic also fitten in instantly. Get your stupid facts right."
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 15:18
"Greedy- if u read my text since we signed alberto u will see im not throwing a party- so ya wrong on that one.also im not brainwashed -so ya wrong again-and BR as only been in the job 11months which is why we finished 7th "
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 15:18
"In your consumer analogy, you have neglected to mention customer loyalty. Besides, I have seen improvements in the 'product' lately, so I'm willing to persist. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:30
"People forget that this is the 9th richest club on Earth. The problem with cheap unproven players is not only may they need to settle, they may be crap. Allen, Borini and Assaidi are cases in point No one can say with certainty whether they are settling or whether they are just crap. KK was only in a season and delivered two cup finals. Look how loyal FSG and some supporters were with Kenny."
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 15:31
"Greedy_yank, have you paid any attention to the latest financial results? Last year upto may 2012 we were nearly 90m in debt. Since then we have reduced the wage bill but we've also spent. If we do indeed end 70m up this summer, which we won't, we're still in debt. I'm no expert and neither are you by the sound of it but at least I bother to do a simple Google search before I spout off."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:34
"Yaweezy 23rd Jun 2013 15:17..seeing as you seem a particularly offensive imbecile, you will no doubt be aware for every high value flop there are 100 cheap flops...Dossena, Riera, Vorinin, Konchesky, Poulsen etc etc etc etc. The list is endless at this club alone. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:37
"ron23 23rd Jun 2013 15:31..that's because FSG are funding the club with debt. You might do your research, but you don't understand it."
Spiritof78
23rd Jun 2013 15:41
"Greedy Yank! your assertion that the cheap players may turn out to be "crap" applies to all players (see list by Yaweezy). All you can do is make sure they are as thoroughly scouted as possible and that you don't get held to ransom over the price. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:45
"Spiritof78 23rd Jun 2013 15:41..So you are saying Torres is a "crap" player? Being crap and failing to settle are two entirely different things. The market values players based on ast other things, their playing record and ability. It's obvious. "
Spiritof78
23rd Jun 2013 15:45
"The problem Rodgers faced last year was coming in with no proper scouting/recruitment team in place sine Comoli left. therefore he bought Allen and Borini whom he knew and had worked with and Assaidi (who I believe he had been scouting for some time while at Swansea). Seems like we have at least got our scouting well sorted this year. "
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 15:48
"Greedy_yank, ha. You say I don't understand my research and then you make a comment which you cannot prove. You're bringing in suion above fact. Like I said, my research was a simple Google search which showed reputable sources, not detailed analysis. But if you think FSG are the source of our problems then you're not doing any detailed research yourself."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:49
"Rodgers also faced the problem of the owners not supporting him in the summer window. Exactly why I am posting my comments. But many here seem more concerned with FSG turning in a profit than backing the manager. It beggers belief, but read the comments above."
Spiritof78
23rd Jun 2013 15:52
"Greedy Yank! You like a good argument don't you? As for Torres, right now (and for the last 18 months) I would say yes he has been relatively crap!! You can excuse it as "not settling" all you want, the reasons are irrelevant. His undoubted class may help him turn this around but it may not. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:53
"ron23 23rd Jun 2013 15:48..that the club is being funded with debt is in the accounts. Ayre has said publicly FSG have made inter company loans. Ayre has also stated revenues are growing. You obviously don't understand your research."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:56
"ron23..my referenced source for the previous comment. I am happy to quote all the sources of my comments. .liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-accounts-ian-ayre-3008730"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 15:58
"Spiritof78 23rd Jun 2013 15:52..Torres is not a crap player. Evidently. He didnt settle at Chavs, and as with any sporting endeavour, injury and form play their part. I don't like arguing I just don't form opinions that are formed from FSG PR and media spin. This season has been thick with it. "
Spiritof78
23rd Jun 2013 16:00
"Greedy Yank! can't disagree with the fact that FSG didn't really support Rodgers in the window last year BUT remember they had their fingers seriously burnt with Carroll, Downing etc. and Rodgers was/is relatively untested. It may be his recruitment of Sturridge and Coutinho will help persuade them to spend a bit more. "
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 16:01
"It would be better if the supporters owned the club. I believe the bigger clubs in Spain follow this business model to great success. At least there would be more accountability and more people involved in decisions. Otherwise, supporters will continue to complain about matters which are basically out of their control."
youngjim
23rd Jun 2013 16:05
"What a shame that players need to bulk up for the "man's game" in the premier league. Yes it should be fast, yes it should be skilful but why put up with the bullies? DOn't get me wrong, I was brought up on Cas, Smith, Souness et al (and loved the games we played)but the world game has moved on. I can understand why we (EPL teams) often get knocked by Euro refs!"
Spiritof78
23rd Jun 2013 16:07
"Greedy yank! not criticising the fact that you are "arguing" with others, personally I really enjoy a bit of a debate with opposing views as they usually make me stop and think. Clearly you are a passionate LFC fan and while FSG are not the perfect owners, they are NOT evil incarnate (and you cannot argue that they are infinitely better than Hicks/Gillet)."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 16:08
"Spiritof78 23rd Jun 2013 16:00..if FSG couldn't tolerate the risk of taking a knock of 35m on Carroll then they should not own a football club. A risk lessened by the huge 50m we got for Torres. BR also blew 29m on Allen,Borini and Assaidi, who have produced nothing. Player purchase is risky. That is no excuse not to back the manager. "
Vosta Lee
23rd Jun 2013 16:11
"Calm down Greedy_yank. Of the players brought in from other teams Coutinho is one of the three least expensive if not THE cheapest. Coutinho is also be one of the first three names on the team sheet in my and likely BR's opinion."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 16:11
"Without reasearching this, I'd have thought all PL clubs were running on debt, why does that make LFC any differen? Bar Chel & ManC who have owners that see the clubs as play-things, all other PL clubs work in similar ways, all owing massive debts. Why do some posters get so irrationally upset with the current financing of the game, it's totally perverse, but that's where its at."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 16:12
"81-82-83-84 23rd Jun 2013 16:01. You say we have no control. Thatcher and the Police thought that when they tried to feed us lies and so did Gillet and Hicks. This is Liverpool. The Scouse Republic. It is our club. Not FSG's. And no way should they be taking a profit whilst we are not in Europe.At least in Europe."
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 16:12
"Dont give greedy yank any more time. He clearly craves attention. Which explains why he is negative in his false assumptions. So ignore him and with a bit of luck he will crawl back under the stone he came from!!!!zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 16:14
"Vosta Lee 23rd Jun 2013 16:1..I am calm. Coutinho looks promising but is hardly the finished product. He looks easily marked when playing tough opponents and is the first to admit he has plenty to learn. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 16:15
"Centrecircle1000 23rd Jun 2013 16:12..is that the best you can do? FSG are paying you for that?"
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 16:19
"LFC is not owned by the fans, it is owned by whoever has paid the millions for it. It is a business as is the whole elite footballing world. Its a business that cannot survive without the fans paying for tickets, but anyone who stops buying a ticket will find 80,000+ more waiting for that ticket...that's the real world of football."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 16:23
"Teams-nearly-ready 23rd Jun 2013 16:19..hence the need fro a new stadium. And hence the perception FSG are not investing for the long term. It would also take a brave fan to walk through a boycott."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 16:30
"Greedy_yank "hence the need for a new stadium" - prob the only part of your rant I agree on. However, how long after ManU success did they expand the stadium, how long until Gunners built the Emirates, how many PL teams have built a new +60k stadium & where is it doented that FSG will not build/expand a stadium? I get some of your frustration, but don't get your impatience."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 16:35
"Teams-nearly-ready 23rd Jun 2013 16:30..Spurs are building their the stadium now. Our stadium issue has been going on since 2007 and the club was sold with the stadium being a key point. FSG have failed to commit and have wriggled since day one.As of writing the stadium remains just an "aspiration". The last announcement was the same as all the previous ones. We are getting left behind."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 16:45
"Greedy_yank 23rd Jun 2013 16:35 The stadium has been a key point with several of FSG's predecessors, why do only FSG bear the brunt of your frustration. It could quite easily be argued that when we were regularly in the CL drawing in massive revenues, those in charge then should have built a new stadium. I have to say, I don't feel your singling out of FSG holds water."
Oablo05
23rd Jun 2013 16:52
"Greedy Yank is misinformed at best..the last 2 years the net spend under FSG has been 37m AND 50m. As for expanding Anfield there are issues in land acquisition, etc to be worked out..it's not as simple as knocking down a stand; putting up another..With 20M Andy carol flop and rant sounds more anti american than fair/rational as none saved for criticism of Kenny and his errors."
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 17:00
"Greedy, my point was that I didn't do deep research but that even a quick Google search can show that the problems run much deeper than FSG. I'm no FSG cheerleader. I keep them at arms length honestly and I'm waiting. I just know that they bought the club when it was on its knees and only did so because they felt it had global appeal to run at profit and run itself..."
Oablo05
23rd Jun 2013 17:02
"In addition in last accounts for 10 months to may 2012 we had a net loss of 40m pounds....so how is FSG profiting greedy yank?"
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 17:05
"Greedy yanks- i was watchg LFC when u were an ich in ya daddys pants..... Most posts on here are against you. Doesnt that tell u something lad.you are texting from one post to another still spouting your comments, craving that another poster will text your grubby name, which is full of HATE for FSG"
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 17:06
"As with any business, they're not doing this to be charitable. They want results. They run the club on debt because they paid 300m for it and then cleared a chunk of the old high-interest debt from h&g. It's impossible to do that at a profit. The only way you can is to increase revenues over time, which as you say yourself, we are doing."
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:10
"You have to give it to Greedy Yanks - who ironically uses a loud and clear moniker - and then poses as an unbiased arbiter. Clearly he didn't think this out, lol. It very difficult to take seriously the rantings of anyone who doesn't have the cleverness to have a name that doesn't highlights their grievances or stance. Back to the drawing board sir. "
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 17:12
"I was worried when BR lacked backing last summer and I would guess that's where half your frustrations come from. It was the first explicit sign that FSG were holding back but it made no sense considering the previous summer outlay. January and this window give me more faith but we're all right to be a little sceptical."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:13
"Oablo05 23rd Jun 2013 16:52...The previous ownership invested in a new stadium...which FSG were only to happy to account for. The net spend on players is nothing special for one of the richest clubs in football. Given Anfield is one of the most deprived regions in Europe, the obstacles FSG cite merely suit their own ends to not build a stadium. The inly obstacle to the new stadium is FSG."
dan62
23rd Jun 2013 17:15
"Greedy_yank you have a real problem and b4 you start spouting of I do know accounting, furthermore I am a business man and I would never invest in anything if I wasn't going to take profits out of it. Besides where do you thing the funding will come from for the stadium and FSG have pumped their own money in as borrowing "
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:16
"Greedy yanks, your assertions are simplistic in the extreme. You foolishly fail to understand that football is a business and is run on similar lines to most business ventures. To try and evoke some sort of rebellion by beating your chest whilst making tribal comments is inane and destined to fail - as most fans now accept we are a business. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:17
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:10..you wished for the team to lose to hasten your repeated denigration and callings for Kenny Dalglishs' sack. That is who you are. No dount you will be the first to call for Rodgers sack. Just like a Chelsea fan."
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 17:18
"On the stadium, I'm actually happy they're working at it but we have every right to be cautious about believing all of it because it's been over a decade... but that again shows that it's far beyond FSG. At least they didn't give us any 60 day 'spade in ground' nonsense. Right now it has to be a waiting game and I'm leaning towards optimism, cos I'm a happy bloke and all that jazz."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 17:18
"When ManC wont sanction a 53m bid for Cavani, it tells you things are changing in the PL. FSG said they knew very little about PL soccer, but were willing to trust their generals in charge, so they spent massively over-inflated prices for English players on advice. Quite understandable that the following year they wouldn't & therefore tightened the belt & in accordance with FFP."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:19
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:16..as simplistic as the business models of Borrusia or Barca? "
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:19
"I would detail the norms of running a business to you but I feel your name precludes you from using common sense in learning new facts. But just remember a well known and completely acceptable phrase.... "That, he who pays the piper dictates the tune" In the meantime, change your name sir..."
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 17:21
"Greedy Yank, it belittles the injustices of Hillsborough to compare them with your disaffection with owners' transfer policy. I can understand why you might want to add pathos to your argument, but all you are doing is highlighting the desperation of it."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:22
"Teams-nearly-ready 23rd Jun 2013 17:18..FSG were happy to sell a certain spanish player for a whopping over valued 50m. And if they were reluctant to spend after spending 35m on AC, they must be reluctant to spend after BR wasting 29m on Allen, Borini and Assaidi."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:24
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:19.. you couldn't detail anything. You cant even proffer intelligent counters to any point made. "
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:25
"Greedy Yank, its sad to see such a promising introduction being savaged by your inability to keep it together. You are fighting on so many fronts you must feel like Germany in world war 2 and surely you know how that ended up, right? Why don't you regroup, change your name and start again, that's a good lad. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:26
"81-82-83-84 23rd Jun 2013 17:21..."it belittles the injustices of Hillsborough"..how? You make the accusation, now substantiate it."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:28
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:25..why not top spouting pompous rubbish and tell us all about the business models of Borussia and Barca and how they vary from FSG's or Cities or Man Utds?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:30
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:25.."so many fronts"...Thats funny coming from you. Your form is known as someone who posts under different accounts. As you did during your vile little campaign against Dalglish last season. Funny! LOL! "
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:32
"Greedy Yank, lets examine your business aen..You accuse FSG of buying a business to make profits, doh! You say they buy young players who will have a sell on value, doh! I guess you preferred the model of spending 100m to win the Carling cup, right? I think I want to start a business with you as you are definitely the sharpest pencil in the box. "
ron23
23rd Jun 2013 17:33
"The only obstacle to a new stadium is FSG. Really, greedy? What was the obstacle in 2007? In 2001? You're talking about a new stadium instead of expansion aren't you? Try asking an educated arsenal fan about a new stadium. See what they tell you. It's just as well they have CL football, that's for sure. As for expansion it's the same problem we've always had... space!"
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 17:33
"Greedy_yank 23rd Jun 2013 17:22 How have FSG wasted 29m on Allen, Borini and Assaidi. Allen received a number of MOM accolades on this very site, Borini/Assaidi have hardly played, that's a very weak arguement. Selling FT for 50m was genius, don't see what point you're making? Your arguements against FSG are now bordering on bullying & even racism. You're in an absolute minority of 1."
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:37
"Greedy Yanks, because I have a bit of time on my hands and before your favourite show comes on later (Antiques Roadshow) let me help you with your madness. you highlight the Barca model and walk into my trap. The similarities are clear but I gather you need spec savers to see them, cont... "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:37
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:32. The club was sold at an undervalued 300m, considering it's revenues and its global exposure. That FSG are now, after such a short time of ownership, without ANY up front investment in facilities, are looking to take profits in the short term spells out their intentions. Even Broughton spelt it out at sale. "
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 17:37
"Greedy_yank, your rants are beginning to hold no substance. Why are you not ranting over the inability of FSG's predecessors for not expanding or building a new stadium when we were rolling in the CL incomes?"
neil991
23rd Jun 2013 17:40
"FSG have done well since coming on board. They just got taken for a ride by Kenny and his expensive flops. Even now, they have spent so much on Aspas, Luis Alberto, Cutinho, Sturridge, possibly Mignolet, Henrikh and a CB. This is a lot of money if you are not an Oil sheikh or some prince!! show respect guys!"
neil991
23rd Jun 2013 17:40
"FSG have done well since coming on board. They just got taken for a ride by Kenny and his expensive flops. Even now, they have spent so much on Aspas, Luis Alberto, Cutinho, Sturridge, possibly Mignolet, Henrikh and a CB. This is a lot of money if you are not an Oil sheikh or some prince!! show respect guys!"
neil991
23rd Jun 2013 17:40
"FSG have done well since coming on board. They just got taken for a ride by Kenny and his expensive flops. Even now, they have spent so much on Aspas, Luis Alberto, Cutinho, Sturridge, possibly Mignolet, Henrikh and a CB. This is a lot of money if you are not an Oil sheikh or some prince!! show respect guys!"
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 17:40
"Greedy- give it a rest your boring everyone to death lad zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz we have heard your points now do one lad zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:41
"Teams-nearly-ready 23rd Jun 2013 17:33. You mention "overpriced english" players and then accuse me of racism! And fail to understand my point? I am sorry mate but your comments make no sense."
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:41
"The Barca model is predominately based on nurturing their own stars through their youth set up whilst reducing their need to spend exorbitantly on transfer targets, ring a bell, no, ok, I shall proceed. They also believe in adopting a style of play which relies on ball retention, rings a bell yet, no, ok, cont..."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:44
"Teams-nearly-ready 23rd Jun 2013 17:37..answered already. the previous owners had the stadium designed and planned. FSG were quick to "discover" the 80m spent on the new stadium and wrote it off to exceptional expenditure. Otherwise the 11-12 FY would have shown a profit."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 17:45
"Greedy_yank 23rd Jun 2013 17:41 Ha ha, pathetic response, 'overpriced English players' was what was reported in English newspapers. My comments make no sense because you have no answers, why are you not having a go at FSG's predecessors? Or does that not make sense!"
Oablo05
23rd Jun 2013 17:46
"Note how Greedy Yank hasn't answered me how FSG are profiting and club lost 40m in last accounts...loss is opposite of profit i thought as a 10 yr ACCA qualified accountant but happy to move on from this argument anyway"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:46
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:41..Obviously I am talking of the business model and the ownership structure you idiot."
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:46
"They believe in buying young up and coming stars to augment their youth set up, admittedly the players bought have huge potential, but the philosophy is the same, any bells screaming yet, no, wow you are dumb. They believe keeping their spiritual home is as important as player buying, ring ring, no, cont..."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 17:49
"Greedy_yank - tbh I agree with others on here, you're boring us with no substance to your arguments & have clearly got an irrational agenda that no one is buying in to. I have no further need to discuss LFC with the blinkered - enjoy your solitude life."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:51
"Oablo05 23rd Jun 2013 17:46...the club will see an additional 60.6m this year from TV, and already has sold Ac for 15.5....so a fresh 76.1m. Less 6m for Alberto leaves 70.1m...less the 40m loan from FSG last year leaves 30.1m CASH. "
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:53
"Barca believe that size does not matter on the field and rely on technicians who press and are able to move about in fluid movements and stuck at this philosophy whilst Real Madrid went on their Galiticos experiment, ring any bells sir. I could go on but sticking it to you is too easy and I am bored."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 17:54
"And given the reduction in wage overheads, and the growth in revenue streams, up on last year, it is difficult not to see the club turning in a profit. If you are an ACCA accountant, they must give it to anyone these days."
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 17:57
"Greedy Yanks, only you would not see that player buying philosophies, playing styles, stadium retention, managers vision are all part of a business model. You see in football having a great team makes the club much more profitable and therefore gives us fans what we crave. I suggest you lie down and think your assaults more clearly, ok. "
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 17:59
"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:00
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 17:57...Simple fact is Barca is not a "soccer franchise". Simple as that. Instead of simply stating the fact, you just spew drivel. As per. Same every season with you. Anyone with a brain would change their name. "
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 18:04
"Buddha- ignore him he wants attention"
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 18:05
"Greedy Yanks, you are like a drunken sailor on leave - smartly dressed up but sticks out like a sore thumb. Stop fighting, put down your weapons and come quietly sir, you are surrounded. You are under arrest, you have the right to remain silent as anything you stupidly say will be used against you. I guess too late, huh?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:06
"I am going to leave you half wits to celebrate the fantastic signing of young Alberto. Your celebrations will no doubt be along the exact lines of when Assaidi signed, and Buddha predicted great things for the player last season. Fact is, Assaidi has hardly played. Hence his impending sale. Buddha and BR are geniuses."
Oablo05
23rd Jun 2013 18:08
"Greedy yank I prefer not to get to the insults and if my tone was such I apologise as we support the same club..that being said my point was FSG made huge losses their first 2 fiscal years so for you to point to a possible future profit ON THIS YEAR ALONE and not mulative to date respectfully is insane..you have NO reason to distrust them..NONE...moving on.. Welcome Alberto"
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 18:12
"Centrecircle, I am going to give him all the attention he deserves, not the sycophantic ones he craves but the probing type that highlight his madness and embarrasses him. A bit like pulling his shorts down in front of a group of girls, although, he gets noticed, its not what he was planning. "
buddha1935
23rd Jun 2013 18:19
"See ya later Greedy Yanks. I have to give it to you, I have not seen so much rubbish since when I was fly tipping at the local dumping spot, but keep that to yourself, eh. I suggest you use your next foray on here more wisely by reading up on facts and then you will have a fighting chance in being taken seriously. Good luck pal. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:20
"Oablo05 23rd Jun 2013 18:08..Your point was that my accusation of taking a profit was baseless.Evidently you think taking a profit after 3 years is acceptable. Bodes well for the future."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:23
"buddha1935 23rd Jun 2013 18:19..do you remember the crap you spouted last year about Assaidi? for example: Lonewar2012 17th Aug 2012 18:44"Ok just played as him on FIFA 12...(just for fun) this lad is quick and top draw...."
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 18:33
"Greedy you are one sad lad have u got nothing better to do?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:43
"Centrecircle1000 23rd Jun 2013 18:33....sad? At the end of it all, no one on this site today has actually proved my original comment..that at this time of writing FSG are sitting on a profit...is wrong. Because it isn't. I just got slated for having a valid opinion. It is you who is sad mate. "
Centrecircle1000
23rd Jun 2013 18:45
"Sick n sad- im out of here zzzzzzz"
totokia
23rd Jun 2013 18:48
"Greedy fool-If you had the time to look at our accounts you would know that FSG have taken ZERO profit from the club and have said they don't intend to. Furthermore they have given ZERO dividends to investors. They have replaced 40 million of interest bearing bank loans with a ZERO interest loan just recently. You keep getting proven wrong time after time by our smart and decent ownership."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:49
"Centrecircle1000 23rd Jun 2013 18:45 you is sad and thick!"
Euroanfield
23rd Jun 2013 18:53
"This guy may look a future star but we need at least two top class signings to challenge the top 4. BR please bring in some big names as a statement of intend to our top 4 rivals."
1986lfc
23rd Jun 2013 18:53
"i'm not sure about the yanks, i think you're all forgetting about the sky money and all the sponsorship deals,also the cost for a top game at home is £50, the yanks are not our saviors and anyone who thinks that they wiped the debt off are mistaken, they'll want it all back somehow."
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 18:53
"Greedy Yank, you were the one using the Hillsborough disaster as an example of how supporters are in control. I was pointing out that using emotive language in argument is often indicative of its fallacy. If you are in control, why don't you something about the lack of big tranfers, if you're so unhappy about it?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:54
"totokia 23rd Jun 2013 18:48..see my comment at 17:51....they are sitting on a profit at this juncture. You are quick to call people fools, but you are gullible. Every comment you make is inane. "
Champions Of Europe
23rd Jun 2013 18:59
"Greedy_yank 23rd Jun 2013 18:43 Wont come on here much these days due to posters like you who try and antagonise others with no facts. Try reading posts of others carefully & you will find all have proved your point is wrong, you just didn't find anyone to agree with you so you kept blurting out the same rubbish. Wont respond to whatever you may reply with as it has all been said by others."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 18:59
"81-82-83-84 23rd Jun 2013 18:53. My point is if we finish this season as badly as last season ended, and a profit has been taken, I am certain protests will be made. And given FSG left the manager high and dry this time last year, And our season suffered, there is reason to be suspect. many on here, though, support FSG more than they club.Just Read the previous comments. "
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 19:01
"ChampionsOfEurope 23rd Jun 2013 18:59..where? Which comment has proved that FSG are not sitting on 30m at this time?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 19:02
"1986lfc 23rd Jun 2013 18:53...true mate."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 19:05
"1986lfc 23rd Jun 2013 18:53 "they'll want it all back somehow" - of course they'll want it all back, they're a business not a charity! Sheesh."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 19:06
"ChampionsOfEurope 23rd Jun 2013 18:59..I should keep my comments for serious forums, like RAWK...these comments are for away fans..."
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 19:08
"Teams-nearly-ready 23rd Jun 2013 19:05..since when has being compeive in the EPL ever been a business? You just don't get it do you?"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 19:10
""club /klÉ"
Greedy_yank
23rd Jun 2013 19:12
"club:(noun) "An association dedicated to a particular interest or activity". That interest in our case being FOOTBALL not MONEY."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 19:13
"Greedy_yank 23rd Jun 2013 19:08 God the irony; you maybe need to ask yourself the same questions - don't think I've ever laughed so much before - you've taken this website to new levels of stupidity. Can't be ar5ed conversing with you no more, I've had my laugh."
81-82-83-84
23rd Jun 2013 19:37
"Greedy Yank, if we finish 7th again then I don't think the level of indignation will be as great as it is with the injustices of Hillsborough. If you can't see the difference between trifling over the club's accounts and the loss of people's lives, then I think you may have priorities wrong."
WhelanR
23rd Jun 2013 20:26
"If LFC is run as a business only then we are doomed"
1986lfc
23rd Jun 2013 20:39
"Teams-nearly-ready, so why come in and say that they have wiped the debt out then, in my book when you wipe something out its gone, you're idea of wiping out will be interesting to read."
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 21:03
"1986lfc 23rd Jun 2013 20:39 If FSG claim to have wiped the debt when they bought LFC does that mean LFC wouldn't still be aculating debt with the outgoings arranged by their predecessors. If I wipe the debt of my credit card, does that mean life stops & I stop spending on it. Debt is created when you have no choice to spend more than you have or foolishly spend it anyway!"
Team's-ready
23rd Jun 2013 21:14
"If a friend wiped out my credit card debt, I'm pretty sure they'll be expecting it back again a some time & I would certainly be thankful to them & want to pay them back. Wiping debt is a snapshot of the moment the debt is wiped, debt still continues to grow after that time unless the economies are scaled down."
buckie
23rd Jun 2013 21:45
"Greedy Yank - I have to agree with you a lot, but we've made our bed, so we have to wait to see what happens over the next 2 years to make a "fair" judgement. Like you I can't understand how we are not making a profit each year, with our global "brand" we should still be making a profit in the championship!"
buckie
23rd Jun 2013 21:51
"FSG have increased revenue streams which is good, but in general p&l costs in & costs out, we should be a good profit, KK getting to Europa & cup finals would have only helped this. I'm happy they take some profit, but I would like it shown contd"
buckie
23rd Jun 2013 21:54
"If it is a case they are investing money, i.e. marketing in Asia etc then fine, I expect FSG to be able to sell the "brand" well, as that is what yanks are best at, making the club more future profit. Reality the more money the club makes, the better it is for them. If they then sell for a big profit, again fine"
BoxerShortEats
23rd Jun 2013 22:13
"Since we cant offer CL football the only way to attract big names is to offer ridiculous wages and once we cross that line there wont be any going back. It may be slow but i think we are moving in the right direction. Just my 2 cents."
Davidorosso
23rd Jun 2013 22:48
"Ooh, look over there...! It's a football player... I am very pleased we have signed Luis. He might be great for us. He might not be. Risky business, football management. I like what BR is doing. And I'm glad we have some money available for transfers in. Hooray! Come on you Reds! YNWA!!!!!!!!!"
mightyredsbeds
23rd Jun 2013 23:31
"if we dont get top 4 next season i will be very suprised! well done everyone involved in bringing all these great new players. so excited. whos name will i get on my shirt now :o"
Steven1988lfc
24th Jun 2013 6:50
"What a t0$$pot you are greedy yank! (Like how the dollar signs are in there) you think buying a business that's in debt can suddenly be the no.1 business and attract every high profile player/worker out there. Deluded! Bet you said the same thing when we spent 7million on Coutinho! And did you think to yourself.. Ooo I think I'll spend my whole Sunday talking crp on Liverpool forums "
Bane.8
24th Jun 2013 9:21
"Liverpool has always brought the best Spanish players :)"