I understand the necessity to make break through the first team many young lads, but sincerely I think that 2 top stars as Luis and Stevie and just 6 top internationals plus some good squad player is not enough to compete actually to enter in the top 4 in EPL. Sincerely Ian, many more work in the transfer window has to be done if we want to be compeive to play in Europe again next season! YNWA
"okay i understand. and what if the younger players cant handle the intensity and we end up relegated? do we spend then? and still keep the youngsters? I will always support LFC, BR(or any manager), nd owners, but the more i listen to this guy and BR, i get worried. Somethings not right"
"Just sign Sneijder. Its unbelievable how we didnt yet. Yes, his wage demand is high but he is available around 8 mil euros. That situation balances each other. Please read comments and go for Sneijder."
"Well you'll see what is going to happen if we don't get 4th spot. Suarez will be first to leave, so make yourself and everyone who loves this wonderful club a good and buy Sneijder.
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"The please explain to me how we're allowing Yann M'Vila to be signed by QQPR for 7 million? If ever there was a right player at the right price this would be him, no? He would stop us from being bossed around in midfield like we were on Sunday."
"I am really worried how the club run its course. We bought so many youngsters and will continue to do so, I don't think they are capable enough to play week in week out at liverpoolfc. The likes of sterlIng and Allen are great examples. Both of them played very well in their first couple of games but their performance started to fall apart after few games.
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"Sign Sneijder you old fools. Best players in world doesent come available in every transfer window.
Sneijder brings character, Experience, Free kick specialist, creativity, briliant movement, accurate passing, leathal long shots, winning mentality he is same class with 28y old Steven Gerrard.
Singing 40-50M£ player for 8M£ who cares what his wage is, its top bargain anyways."
"I dont trust Ayre one iota, he's just a lapdog for the yanks, by all means buy good young players, but we are buying rejects, Allen never worth £15 million in a million years, Borini, not even worth half a million, just a headless chicken who cant even get a shot on target, Sturridge a Chelsea reject, RIP "
"Ian Ayre needs to stop talking as he sounds just as bad if not worse then when Downing speaks. Your comment regarding Lucas being a world class player made me laugh however so thanks for that Ian! :D "
"Please get another natural left back. We should not put GJ on the left every time Enrique is injured. GJ is great on the right but not so much on the left. So let's keep him where he's best. To be compeive, we need all our strongest players on their right positions."
"If we have got 'the right balance' then why are we 8th in the league?! The squad lacks quality. This model is similar to what Arsenal have attempted. They regularly lose their best players and haven't won anything in 8 years. Two players who would take us towards the top four are Negredo, who is available for 15 mill, and Sneijder. He clearly doesn't want to go to Turkey"
"Fine words Mr Ayre, and well constructed. Please show me the proof. NONE of Rodgers' signings have done anything. We are pitching ourselves at mediocrity. So, let's forget this season. Can you honestly say we have built for next season? Honestly. Nah thought not."
"I cant stand you Ian, You constantly lie to the fans, about how much money the club has to spend! you leave before the deadline of the transfer window is over!! You cant seem to spot a bargin when its in your face! VDV, Sneijder etc. You seem to have no stance with the owners and are just a yes man! Were 8th its stupidly obvious we need to spend you coot! "
"How has Ayre still got a job? Beyond me. Just seems to be interested in talking rather than actually working on signings. Remy and M'Villa to QPR for a combined £15million, what a bit of business that would be for us. Nevermind, another missed opportunity. Sigh."
"Ayre - You're deluded. BR already talks enough nonsense, we don't need you adding to the noise. If you actually believe what you say here, then LFC are setting their stall out for being a mid-table club. Do you honestly believe Suarez will want to stay without Champions League? The guy is the only world class player we have, the only one! "
"I don't care how much wages Sniejder wants, just get his asap. And tell Rodgers to stop talking, call off pre-match pressers because nothing of use ever comes from them, other than ammunition for other clubs to have a go at us!"
"Weve got the right balance i.e. were not in the red the wages ave gone down with cole goin and were not getin anymore players in til summer what a way to run one of the biggest clubs in the world well done to all involved. Remy and mvilla goin to qpr snejder still not signed thank you fsg your are pure muppets hicks & gillet mark 2"
"The product, that is the football, is mediocre. Too much cost cutting in the name of profits for FSG. So the balance might be right for you, but it isn't right for a lot of match goers."
"We have 1 world class player and that is it no matter what media spin Ayre puts on it. Table doesn't lie and show exactly where we are as a club right now!"
"With advances in medical and sports sciences sportsmen across all fields are playing at a high level up their late 30's at least.
AC Milan are the masters at keeping their senior players fit and performing in the latter stages of their career.
Over reliance on youth and potential will only get us so far.Stevie G knows the score and is bang on with his comments."
"We are unbalanced when we start to get near the pen box. We NEED sneijder to bridge the team to dan and luis. SG cant do it alone and no one else is doing it. We cant allow a player of his quality to go to a team that is threatening to take our top 4 spot. FSG get him PLEASE!!!!!"
"If we persist the way we're going with BR (the clown) and Ayre backing him then I see a massive exit at the end of the season with Suarez, Johnson, Skrtel, Lucas, Pepe all moving on..... by then we'll probably be in the lower half of the table! Shame that after 35 years supporting this club we have come to this !!!!"
"Mr. Ayre, please remove those blinkers off your eyes. We can't make it top 4 with this squad. I won't change my opinion until I see this squad a top 4 team. So far, that hasn't happened. "
"Moan moan moan moan moan, so sick of reading all this negativity!! Its not fantasy football, people have such short memories we were nearly gone 2 years ago because of silly spending, now everyone wants Sneijder who wants ridiculous wages, hasn't played properly for 10 months and none of the top clubs are interested says it all to me!! Patience is needed! YNWA"
"we have enough talent coming through the academy for the future.look at how the U21's and 18's are perfoming as proof.we need to fix the 'here and now'.there more i read anything from Arye,there more deppressed i get"
"All hot air. Ayre simply FSG's spin doctor cos they domt communicate with the fans anymore- as they promised when they bought us. Mistrust is building and building. Spirit of Shankly will start to flex their muscles soon, then there'll be trouble.... The signs are there Mr Ayre. Take heed...."
"First half against manu was a reality check. We were outplayed and the team screamed for quality. Dont let second half fool you. They stepped down and controlled it in. We need 6-7 top international players to compete. A new keeper, two defenders, two midfielders and two top strikers! If not we will continue to struggle!!"
"Only1Cloggs- I have to agree with you, 7M for Yann M'Villa is a steel! I wanted us to sign him about 2 years ago. Would provide defensive midfield steel. "
"Snaky, wake up. When you start somewhere in life you have nothing especially with any job. The youngsters have to get game time to progress.
BR and the owners will not be that naïve to let LFC be relegated. We are also not going the Chelsea way to hire and fire managers just because. I believe in LFC way of doing things and doing business in getting this club ready for the future. "
"We ll see in the summer how many loyal top players we have when we miss out on 4th again and their all jumping ship and who could blame them!you have two weeks b.r. and fsg to show some ambition and stop it from happening for example snjeider maybe??"
"FSG are complete novice in terms of Football. So who advised them to sack KD & appoint BR??? Some players take time to adapt. Team was playing well but really unlucky. If KD wanted some players, it showed DC & Ayre were very poor negotiators. Remember Dempsey this season? He looks very amateur & out of his depth like BR. Need a director like David Dein"
"Sorry Mr Ayre, I disagree ! The right balance will keep us mid table and that's not what we want or expect. We need more than the right balance. Get rid of Downing and Henderson and bring Sneider in ."
"Ian Ayre is absolutely full of it! Don't be surprised when in February we've signed no one else and have instead weakened the squad by losing more players than were brought in..Last transfer window was a shambles and they're spouting the same crap again"
"Ian Ayre is absolutely full of it! Don't be surprised when in February we've signed no one else and have instead weakened the squad by losing more players than were brought in..Last transfer window was a shambles and they're spouting the same crap again"
"talk is cheap , to me some teams seem to finalise any transfares quicker than us.i agree we have the nucleous of a good squad but we are crying out for one or two high quality players. you dont win anything on the cheap,as the saying goes you get what you buy."
"Oh dear. This stream of comments is very depressing. Mainly because I agree with so many of them.
I'm also gobsmacked at how we've baulked at making a bid for Sneijder and see quality players getting snapped up by other clubs at half the price for some of those who are under performing at LFC"
"Can't believe this buffoon is our MD. Everytime he talks he sound so ignorant it's embarrassing. We can compete with anyone financially really? You can't win anything with kids this is a well doented fact. When world class players like Sneijder is available you all go out to sign him, simple. Even the young players we are buying aren't top quality. Isco is top quality, Borini and Allen aren't."
"This is one time I'm going with the mob! lol We should be buying Snidjer with out hesitation at that price! we have freed up all these wages, for What!? Do something guys! At least an LB at the very least!"
"acualy buy the sound of the fans on here and the way you run a transfer window .which is hilaireus by the way .you should be standing on the same trap door kenny and damion stood "
"LIKE SOME ONE MENTIONED LAST SEASON,WE ARE STILL GALLOPING UP DIAREA DRIVE WITHOUT A SADDLE!!!
FSG HAVE YOU LOST YOUR CHEQUE BOOK!!!CAUSE I FOR ONE AND SICK OF TAKEN SERIOUS STICK FROM THEM MANC SUPPORTERS!!!!"
"What Balance. Have you smoked your breakfast Mr Ayre. We are so lightweight in midfield yet Mvilla on to QPR for 7m. No creativity in MF and yet we are dithering over Sneijder for 8m. We'll pay JC 100k a week and on top of that pay him to leave. You and your predecessor are much the same and the fans don't trust you. YNWA"
"Agree with many others here, unless we add world-class talent NOW to clinch that CL spot, and compete in PL, we will lose the likes of Suarez. See what happened to Arsenal. Times have changed. Refrain from ridiculous comments like we have the right balance. WE DO NOT!"
"For a club that was less than 48 hours away from administration we're not looking too bad now. Wake up people, we were a whisker away from being the next Leeds. We're back on track now and heading in the right direction so don't lose faith"
"FSG have that American Dream story script where an unproven & unknown guy shows up & lead the team to success (Boston?) Then make a Movie like Moneyball & make more money? (Though they already made the LFC Doentary film)) This is not a show & Baseball is not Football. Wake up, we are going down & soon will win Oscar for the Tragedy of LFC. There is no heart & passion in the club anymore"
"right balance joke ,to much inexperience ,too many mediocre players but i wouldnt buy sniejder hes to greedy mercenary ,mvilla yes a bargain would be brilliant buy ,it was said weeks ago sterling and allen needed a rest wat rest as sterling had ,we are that thin on the ground we have to overplay him ,allen not up to the mark,i love this club and it hurts to see how far we are behind the pack now ,"
"WE ARE THAT POOR I COULDNT BEAR(yes as in grizzly)TO WATCH THE GAME ON SUNDAY AS I ALREADY NEW THE OUT COME!!!!ITS GETTING SO PREDICTABLE IT HURTS BAD!!!!"
"HE HAS OBVIOUSLY COME OFF THE HARLEY AND HIT HIS HEAD!!!!!PLEASE NO MORE FOOLISH TALK MR AYRE GET ON THE PHONE AND LETS SEE A FEW MORE NEW FACES PLEASE AND MAKE IT SNAPPY!!!"
"Just wonder if this is all part of the game to ensure that LFC never gets ripped off again by clubs in transfer deals. 'Dilute' our financial position, and not get skanked? Just a thought cos the contradictions just dont add up?"
"M2HB!WAS JUST SAYING THAT TO A WORK MATE B4 XMAS IF WE DONT DO SERIOUS BUSINESS IN JAN WINDA THEN IT MAY BE TIME TO UNFURL THE YANKS $$$ NO THANKS OUT BANNERS ONCE MORE!!!!"
"can some one tell me where I can read where Sneijder say's he wants to come to liverpool, I cant find it anywhere, maybe it's not true and just another RUMOUR. "
"Perhaps what Ian meant is that we have the right account balance. Big earners like Kuyt, Bellamy, Maxi, Joe Cole has left in a systemic clear-out.You have to replace those with experience players like Sneijder. United bent over backwards to get Van Persie, (also 28yrs) and look what he is doing? "
"So, over 2 years in. No stadium improvements, no full time presence in L4, dont attend the games, didnt bother with the Hillsboro service, 8 official apologies, hire and fire for fun, lower league position than last year, more players going out than coming in... contd"
"Even if we are as stingy! can't we afford Diamme of west ham? He's a good stopper in d middle of the park and distributes ball as well! £3.5m clause is a great bargain! I dnt see Allen having the physical ability to hold the midfield!!!!"
"Ok Ayre, if we currently have the right balance, and have had more than 6 months to gel (most players already here before BR), explain why we are so far down the league. We're going to finish outside the top 6 again. LFC have fallen from grace and not one person involved in the club does a thing about it. "
"Zero communication from FSG, zero real direction other than what appears to be commercially build the club on a corporate level, yet weaken it on a playing level. Yet when I 'sound off' about FSG- posters try and tell me to 'stick with it'. Stick with what exactly? contd"
"Wise use of the cash available is needed. Not like we used to do it for 20 or so years (like drunken russian millionaires - read for example Carroll and others). But more cash is needed indeed. YNWA "
"We lurch from crisis to crisis as a club, and others simply laugh. Stoke City sang 'you're not famous anymore' to us on boxing day- a dagger through the heart that one, cos its almost true. FSG need to come out and tell us their intentions, cos ill tell you what I think.... contd"
"That's it redcrusader
16th Jan 2013 12:26, lets forget YNWA and not support LFil they become winners again and say "AW I SUPPORTED THEM THROUGH THINK AND THIN SINCE I WAS A KID". I've a good idea let's all go and support some rich club with fickle owners and supporters, sad."
"They are incompetent rookies who wrongly thought that 'cracking soccer' would be a doddle. They have bitten off more than they can chew, and they are putting the commercial side of the club in such a position to make it an enviable sellable asset. contd"
"No problem with signing young players as long as have the ability and confidence to take the club forward and can be afforded time to bed in while being supported by experienced & established players.At the moment this is not quite the case.More experienced players are needed as well as better young signings to get the balance correct."
"And if they can manipulate the fans into turning on them (which is close imo) then they will have their reason to sell, and walk away with a nice wedge in their pockets. Fantasy, or reality? Time will tell..."
"Where are FSG? Probably in the USA wondering what to do with the mess they've made of the Red Sox. Some guy called Francona has written a book about the disaster FSG have made with the Red Sox. All image with no substance. "
"FSG- Get your arses to Anfield, get your arses to Melwood, get your arses in the city, and show us fans that you are for real- cos once kopites turn, there's no going back. Ever."
"ROTCHIE LAD!!WHEN YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THIS CLUB(AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS CLUB)AS LONG AS I HAVE (74)AND SEEN THEM THROUGH THICK AND THIN
THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WERE I AM COMING FROM. "
"according to fsg we can compete with any club in europe is that playin on the ps3 footy game lol ian hot ayre stop ridin the bike cos it makes you go light headed and talk ribbish like you are now if were proggersin so well why are we 24 points behind manure stop papering over the cracks show me the money"
"Other clubs are busy strengthening their team and we have br and Ian Ayre busy talking and talking. Even bottom QPR shows more ambition. What a shame as a supporter I am disappointed."
"All this negativity makes me sick to be a red, moaning because we haven't signed Sneijder (who's been average this season)..Remember what happened last time money got spent by King Kenny? or the financial disaster with the other 2 yank clowns; no wonder there trying to be careful!"
"We have not added to the squad, Sturridge has filled the spot vacated by Carroll. Our aquad is now weaker as we have lost 2 first team members in Sahin & Cole. Sunday showed us how weak our team really is now. We need at least 2 more quality signings. Or at least 1 in the shape of Sneijder."
"reality is that if we had the money we would have invested last jan when we knew lucas was out for the season and suarez was going to get a long ban. we knew andy was not going to score a shed load and that we were mid building process. i hope decisions were made for the right reasons we have to believe they were or we will all lose faith then the club is in real trouble"
"redcrusader, you didn't hit a nerve but to read that you knew we would loose so could'nt watch us v manure and say you are still a supporter? I dont understand that contradiction? "
""torre9"..he is NOT happy at Inter that is why. we need a player like him in the middle of the park and Joe (the lightweight) Allen needs to be benched - permanently - he is RUBBISH! or his daddy BR can start the boy to man Vitamins!"
"Hearing you loud and clear Rushjob.However it would be pointless for FSG to spout more BS to appease those fans that are that desperate to believe anything these yanks will tell them.
What I want to know is what happened in the court case with Hicks and Gillette as it seems they were happy to come to "an arrangement"."
"Rodgers is trying to do his job caught between an epic past of Shanklian
commitment and a future of being an American overseas investment. To be permanently caught between the two isn't great."
"For all of you that want Sneijder, I wonder why MC, MU and Chelsea don't want him as he is so cheap. Shut up and just support the team! He is not the guarantee that we can finish top 4. Whilst loic remy and yann mvilla will disrupt the harmony and stability in the dressing room. Their clubs are so eager to sell them because of that. "
"What so ever....I just don't really like this guy....I though he should be sacked since summer of last year as he's the one who should bear the most responsibility for the failure of the transfer window which at the begining of this season which caused our slow start.....and I don't really trust him."
"All those screaming for Schneider have clearly learnt nothing at all. Joe Cole came to us as Chelse and England regular, on free transfer but with a high wage. He genuinely wanted to play for this club but things didn't work out because he was past his best and struggled for injuries. And all we heard from people on this site was about his wages, his wages, his wages."
""muaz...." the clubs you mention r already loaded with players like Sneij AND if BR had put out the right team we would have beat Manure. the right team would have played the entire game as they started the 2nd half"
"dont sign Sneider, he has only played 30 games in 3 years, due to injury and his ongoing club dispute, fee per game played for us would financially be very very silly and create disharmony! I would rather buy James Milner!"
"Now you are all demanding we sign a player who hasn't played regular first team football for the best part of two years, is on almost double the wages Cole was on AND comes with an £8m transfer fee. Seriously guys - get real. If the guy has one bad game you will all be screaming about his wages and what a waste of money he was. "
"It's embarrassing coming on this site recently with all the whinging going on, people wanting the likes of Sneijder, M'Vila & Remy then in the same breath want us competing at the top, ask yourself why no top clubs are buying these players??? Not good enough that's why they are going to QPR & Gala, so why do you lot want them??? What ever happened to YNWA.......Pfffttt"
"to Roy1987, I have to agree with you, after failing to negotiate for the players last summer and leaving Br with no striking options except for kids, His decsions (or lack off) have severely cost us this season! unless he makes up for it with pulling a few rabbits out of the bag to help BR then Maybe he should work just on the commercial side which he appears to be good at!"
"Thanks nolsea for your comment. I totally agree with it. Get world class coaches such as in barcelona fc. We already got some in rodolfo & alex but it's not enough. I remember fans demanding the club to buy gaston ramirez. Is he burning the EPL? Hahaha....please think before you post something."
"Sometimes i wonder how much he know about football, but we certainly need a few more quality and proven performers in the first eleven,because Sterling, Suso,Shelvey,Allen,Wisdom, Assaidi have not merited a regular start every week."
"muazlik... I agree, Fans scream out for any big named footballer without thinking about how they would fit in to the club/team, and nearly all the fans were screaming out for Ramirez and he has done nothing.... and he does not cover any ground in a match which is not good enough for BRs model of play!"
"Ian my man you say "We will only buy when the right deal is there at the right time." The opprtunity to grab up Sneijder has presented itself, take it quick smart!!!!!!"
"Ian my man you say "We will only buy when the right deal is there at the right time." The opprtunity to grab up Sneijder has presented itself, take it quick smart!!!!!!"
"Well I guess we are still building the foundations of this team and it looks like the up and down performances will continue for some time. Meanwhile other clubs go out and buy the players they know they need now , while we scar the world for cheap young talent, which at the next transfer window we will try to move on , as in Sahine ans Assidi. "
"Thanks for your comment Always A Red. I do agree with you regarding the team selection in the first half at OT. That was BR mistake. We should attack MU from the start using speedy players because of their aging defenders. Alas, they just look and wait for MU attacking them instead. But we have to consider that AF is more experienced than BR. "
"Thanks for your comment Always A Red. I do agree with you regarding the team selection in the first half at OT. That was BR mistake. We should attack MU from the start using speedy players because of their aging defenders. Alas, they just look and wait for MU attacking them instead. But we have to consider that AF is more experienced than BR. "
"You can build the best building in the world but if your foundations suffer a problem you have to fix it right away , LFC have a habit of putting that kind of esential maintenace off."
"I don't want Sneijder, but I do want to see us strengthen the squad not fill it with kids. We were told when we let Caroll go that we would sign two players..deadline came and went...Jan comes, we'll buy a couple of players early..We sign Sturridge(who Ayre messed the deal up for in Aug) and then taa daa we have the most balanced squad in the league.."
"YNWA my a*% its embarrassing at this stage..Sick to the back teeth of listening to this guy and rogers talk absolute nonsense. we'' do this we'll do that..blah blah blah"
"YNWA my a*% its embarrassing at this stage..Sick to the back teeth of listening to this guy and rogers talk absolute nonsense. we'' do this we'll do that..blah blah blah"
"We all can see that Mr Ayre is trying to convey his boss message to the fans. Yes, that is his work. Let him work. I still have the patience to wait for another season to evaluate his work. Then..."
"What FSG wants AYRE to say is, forget it, we will not spend anything to bring back your glory. We only care about baseball. Ayre is not talking sense. the same senior players finished 8 under Rafa, what do we expect them to do after being trimmed even more of numbers with out top class replacement? FSG, please use some logic."
"Cut the bull Ian you think the fans are stupid,Show us the money.
Most balance it seems!!did you watch the Man U game??..never seen us get bullied by the s like in the 1st half. Only after s got 2 goal did we manage some decency "
"Our net spend under FSG amounts to 35+ Millions (we sold Torres) So the promise statement of FSG to compete with top clubs in buying top players is a BIG LIE. They look stingy are not really interested in LFC , as they spend hundred of millions in Red Sox. They look like STRANGERS. Apart from the debt issue Hicks & Gillette handled the club much better with better director & were more present."
"I don't see balance I see an average team. We are lacking a play maker who we need right now in order to make something of this season or we won't see any cups or any European competition and as a result we won't see any world class players come in in the summer. This isn't rocket science it's common sense. "
"rushjob you are spot on with your rants about fsg i have said this for nearly 12 mnth now ,i wouldnt trust them with a childs piggy bank ,they came in with the we are winners statements ,wonder were that went wrong ,this last 12 mnth they have proved thier real att-i-tude, is greed for themselves ,the amount of times they made B.R look like a prat is not the way to win ."
"This really made me so angry today..Football365 having a field day..As usual LFC the butt of all the jokes..Club owners and directors are and have been for last few years an embarrassment..Just shut up and strengthen the team!"
"Look at how the rest of the media have treated Ayre's comments! He has again made LFC and the fans laughing stocks. People are ripping into LFC because of this clown. "
"Words only Words Mr Ayre just a smoke screen from the FSG accountants.They have us competing NO losing out to the likes of Swansea, Southampton and QPR. No brainer really who do you wish to play for son Liverpool or Southampton?. We need to back our Manager we are not at the races! HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED
YNWA REDS "
"I'm just waiting on Brendan coming out with a little pearl of wisdom sometime today. Maybe he predicts a le-charge in the second half of the season from our well balanced side. "
"Why does this message board block out the word T-I-T-L-E, when typed normally? I know we've not won the league in ages, but I didn't realise it had become taboo to talk about it!"
"Yay! Rememebered which email account I use for this site. Rushjon however has pretty much echoed my views on FSG. Seems now that most fans are starting to wake up and smell the coffee- FSG = Cowboys"
"Too much talk at lfc off the field not enough action on the field. Stop screwin around and buy sneijder already. I hear now manure are looking as well.DONT FRACK it up like dempsey ayre. I dont want to read on deadline day you turning of the light in your office at 11pm and heading home without signing sneijder."
"I don't believe we have the right balance, IMO we still lack atleast 2 attacking players who can go straight into the first team and those kind of ones are always in their late 20s and we don't have them."
"I have been a supporter for forty odd years and neither you or rogers inspire any confidence in me at all......Poor old Kenny must be shaking his head in disbelief...."
"All I hear from our MD is that the deal has to be right. Unfortunately in the position LFC is in at the moment we have to pay slightly more than the odds. No CL, mid table standing etc means players won't come unless the have further motivation...money! Further this all stinks like to much business priorities which only spells disaster. Hopefully I'm wrong"
"Ian Ayre! Your DREAMIN KIDDD.........we need MORE Experienced played like Louis and stevie to solidify the yong team were trying to build..Snieder would do this..FORGET his age/wage bill...he going for BUTTON compared to others..Hary Rednapp steals REMY to QPR?? HOW ARE THESE Players not attracted to us?ARE WE JUST NOT GOING IN FOR THEM?? Things DONT ADD UP!!"
"This 'blend' isnt good enough, its just rubbish after rubbish from Ayre, we clearly saw on Sunday we are no way near good enough, Sterling is far too selfish and egotistical (if people saw Being Liverpool), downing is just awful we need a creative midfielder that will sit behind suarez and sturridge, drop joe allen "
"The way i see it either henry sells the red sox or the reds becoz he sure as heck cant own both. in the usa the fans of the sox are furious saying he's putting lfc first, and here i read the same idiotic notion the lfc fans have, so henry is not getting anywhere in this fashion and at this rate he will ruin both clubs."
"Why are people saying FSG are 'playing safe', i doubt mr henry (who i respect 100%) made his millions from 'playing safe' being successful in business is all about being risk-willing, Ian Ayre is just an absolute clown"
"I dont think a man who has made his millions through hedge funds can be classed as a "cowboy" though.Thats just narrowminded xenophobia and is similar to americans thinking all brits = BAD TEETH."
"Mr Ayre, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE explain this to the loyal LFC fans.
BR tells us since the last transfer window the squad is short we need more players, to match the likes of M.U.
we sign Sturrage, but let go Joe Cole & let assini (spelling )go, by my maths were one down already. to quote a fella John Henry knows, WHERE's THE BEEF, get um in NOW!"
"Love the quality of our squad now, Ian ayre is so right and if people cant see they dont know football at all. we need a couple of quaility additions and we will be flying. Fantastic times, such a better squad for the future than we have had for years. very proud of the club!"
"Sorry to come back on this but does anyone in the Liverpool management team ever read any of this. Because if they do please explain how youre not embarised at how bad LFC looks under FSG."
"Sick of the spin from Ayre it's like listening to a second-rate used car saleman.A Liverpool fc Managing Director should have more integrity and relevant experience.We have not got the balance right and nothing is happening with the stadium, it's all talk and no action and no end product."
"LFC are not looking bad just under fsg, they have looked bad for 20 yrs now.i think 20 yrs without a le is proof.in 2005 we had a fluke season and won a cl, but thats it. ever since kk first left this club has fallen apart at the seams with no one being able to pull it back together.LFC need a new shankly..."
"Rosso76.
I agree, what we've seen is we lack real character. Over the years, we've had battle hardened warriors, and we let 3 go last summer Kuyt a bulldozer, Bellamy an itch that won't go away and Maxi, a nuisance. These three were natural compeors and we need to strike that balance."
"muazlikha, so you think that BR is better and will lead us to UFEA? Then why the doubts and mistakes (against MU) as you mentioned. Not sure about you but I have been a lfc fan for more then 30yrs. What we have seen lfc in the last 3 - 4 sessions have been a joke. And you are right, you do need to think before you post anything. "
"same walkie-talkie again.Time to update yourself absolutely today.Gone with the wind like a song says: Youre all just ing in the wind,you dont know it but youre.Balance comes when we have four or five top-midfilder with attac ability and one defense-leader,with top-class winger-sideback.Bring Damiao and Sneijder.Sell Allen and Downing."
"Its not only the mix, but the quality as well. What worries me is that Spurs are making some solid additions to their team -Holtby, Freyers and talking about Damaio etc. We only seem to be going after players that Rodgers knows previously which is limiting our talent pool severely"
"What you are saying is that the powers that be are prepared to bite the bullet and accept mediocre mid table performance until we get to that point when HOPEFULLY the investment in youth matures. FACT- we don't have a team/squad at present to compete for CL.....we have not beaten anyone above us in the table. SHOCKING. Sir, you simply don't have the RIGHT blend of your and experience - FACT"
"BRING XABI ALONSO BACK HOME. He is waiting for the call. He is on top of his game and has been one of their most consistent players this season. He will give us at least 2-3 years awesome service and give much needed assistence to the likes of Hendo/Shelvey/ Allen etc. He will free him and afford SG the opportunity to bomb forward....where SG should be. NO RISK"
"All depends if LFC are keen, very keen or just to better last seasons end season position. Quick fix could be Sneijder. A quality player, bags of experience and would relish playing along side Stevie G and like Garry McAllister would enhance the team no end.Could be the catylist for that 4th spot. No brainer IMO."
"Talking about the bank balance again ? The team does not have the right balance. Buying someone like Sneijder with experience and a bit of bite would help our midfield."
"Ian we ALL love the club and support the team . BUT to compete for a top four place we need to ensure all players for the team are contributing and quite clearly some are not and that includes new team members from past few transfer dealings which YOU decided to bring in. FACT we will not b a top 4 this season n not attrach the quality we need in team FOR A CHALLENGE , YOUR FAULT IAN AYRE. "
"The Club has been seriously mis-managed at senior level for years. Parry, Purslow and now Ayre being the spokesperson for an incompetent Board structure dating back to David Moores. Clueless and spineless; all of them."
"DS was a really good signing, and the balance is very good between age and for the future but we still need a bit more depth but we are not in the panic area, so we can cope but just that.. Signing a defensive midfielder to rotate and a utility attacker like Wesley would give us the edge. We can now sit back a bit and take the good offers when they pop up. "
"I believe that we have an excellent squad of players but what we seem to be lacking is the mental strength to compete with the best. We showed in the second half that we are as good as Man.U but our first half showing was abysmal. We do have less players now than we had two weeks ago, so another CH & LB are needed as cover. YNWA"
"Dont you stick out your head and speak about "right balance" when we start achieving something? This season has turned out to be a complete disaster till now. To throw salt on our wounds we had to endure the ultimate humilation of loosing to manure! What is this boofon of a managing director talking about!?!"
"We have a good back four, yes. But with one proven striker, one proven midfielder and a dodgy goalkeeper you can hardly call us balanced. Unless of course you know nothing at all about football. Oh, I get it now."
"I agree with Redblood48 - you cant believe a word that comes out of Ayres mouth..you also cant believe a word FSG say. In mid April 2012 they stated they had great confidence in Kenny. Four weeks later he was sacked with Ayre coming out saying he was sacked so they could bring Liverpool back to greatness. Lets hope and pray Rodgers is not a yes yes man and can bring us back to the top. "
"Lonewar mate seriously. You and I bet 1% of fans believe that Ayre is doing a good job and that we have a decent squad, (the best in many years as you claim). Do you write with your tongue firmly in cheek? Or is it that you see things that the majority of fans don't see? (Just like last year with KD) "
"Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy, Carroll, Cole, Carroll (loan) Adam, Aqua, 8 players all experienced internationals. Replaced with Allen (jury out) Borrini (Know a couple of Chelski fans who said he was useless, yet to do owt for us)Assaidi (erm, say no more) Yesil (on the bench for the reserves) Sturridge (fair duse may be a good buy) "
"Seeing teams like bayern Munich and borusia Dortmund performing consistently with attacking flair mixed with a blend of few stars and some upcoming talents dats is called well balanced side Mr Ian ayre and stop talking nd do your homework"
"Regarding the "we don't just want to win once, we want to build something which keeps winning.", err how many time Red Sox have won the league since FSG had bought it in 2002 ? and about "experience is vital" why doesn't that include the manager?? "
"Why is it that we have suddenly become a small club? Haggling over a measely £1m over Dempsey. In danger of missing out on Ince yet Swansea could snap him up? "
"QPR have got balls and realise the need to strengthen and doing something about it. When did they last win the league or Champs League? Do they have millions of fans around the world and one of the richest clubs? Nope! It saddens me to think of our current owners. No interest in attending games, no interest in investment. False promises about signings and new ground/development. "
"Johnson at left back shows there is a lack of balance. It is not easy to see the Ayre knows nothing! Perhaps I know nothing but then again I am not paid to be knowledgeable why not get Riise back he may gives us something we are missing!
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"Difficult to believe how toxic people become about football; I love my LFC, always have, always will, but its just a game, an escape from the reality of this crappy world we live in. Why are people blowing a gasket over our signings, lack of signings, way we play, way we don't play. Just enjoy it & support your club, its not that difficult to do."
"Still much too young overall. We need a couple of seasoned experienced playmakers in their prime. (26+) and forget RESALE value. Then the balance will be perfect."
"I believe we are not as bad as the league position suggests, we have had undeniably some of the most dominating periods of football, Whether for only 20mins or for the whole match. However this doesn't give you the points or praise it deserves. "
"I believe we are not as bad as the league position suggests, we have had undeniably some of the most dominating periods of football, Whether for only 20mins or for the whole match. However this doesn't give you the points or praise it deserves. "
"Honestly we are lacking at least 1 or 2 more TOP INTERNATIONAL SUPERSTARS to have the stature and consistency of yesteryear, We had Torres + that awesome team when we got 2nd and should have really won apart from 2 silly draws. ManU always have a balanced team, a group of internationals and 1 or 2 TOP STARS i.e. Ronaldo, RVP and on and on When Arsenal we really good they had Henry etc. "
"I believe that we could really have something up front with Suarez, Sturridge and a wildcard player i.e. Borini (he could turn really good), Sterling, downing, Assaidi, (Why isn't he getting games!), Suso (Why isn't he getting games!!!), "
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I think if we had a Top Midfielder next to Gerrard, who is still our backbone, even if not as scary. Also with 1 more top Centerback we would have a chance of competing at the top next season. To get anything out of this season, its all about adding 1 BIG name before the window closes. But is that going to happen, I doubt it.
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"I think Brendan has the makings of a top manager and It really frustrates me everyone ging his efforts all the time. He is young and is making a few mistakes, however there is a very good side to the work he is doing! Give him time to develop both the team AND HIMSELF as a manager and we will be a Humungous (Sturridge haha) force in the Premier League and Europe."
"There is also kaka. Overall a better player imo and the ultimate professional. You wont get tantrums from him if relegated to the bench, unlike sneijder.Cheaper too. Free transfer, lower wages, sounds better and better to me!"
"Do u think all the young players will be here in 5 years time when they've matured and become better players? We are becoming the next Arsenal where we have kids who can get better but then leave when they become matured. We need experience in the midfield now, don't get anymore kids with potential cos we have enough. Sneijder would easily get into our midfield now."
"Im not one for kee jerk reactions depending on our last result. But when your best player SG comes and sys he feels a top signing regardless of age is needed i think management has to give it priority.Otherwise cracks will appear in the dressing room et et and its all downhill after that."
"I'm sorry but quit with the BS Ian & FSG. We do not have the right balance. Yes it is fantastic that we have youth coming through but we still need to fix key areas with quality & experience."
"Like SG i too cant buy completely into the adage about youth and future.Wont all the other teams also improve? They wont stand by to let us play catch up yknow? We have to compete in the present, while building for the future.THATS a winning formula."
"I just do not know what make of your comments,they just confuse me even more.
As long as your comments are made in the best interests of LFC,I guess I will just have to accept them. "
"Shankly had the cojones to challenge the board and say "buy me these players and you can fire me if they cant play" I think br has to start asserting himself now."
"to Ani-. I do see things differently from most fans, I look at what we are doing from a sports performance side, (MY JOB). and I love what the club is doing! WE will benefit massively next season!"
"also Borini will have you eating your words, the Chelsea fans I know all thought he was one for the future, at 20 and an Italian International... Impressive, he is very very highly rated in Italy!"
"We don't even have the balance on the pitch right so how can he say this about the squad being balanced? We have too many central midfielders, possibly one too many left wings, no right wings, 5 right backs, only 2 left backs..go on and on. We need more players and we needed strikers and right wingers when Rafa was in charge."
"I don't know why everyone is moaning,when you are being told the truth for once.If you read the headline it's quite clear that he is telling everyone what they want to know with regards to FSG's bank account."
"Riise`s available apparently, which is more than can be said for Enrique quite often. Bellamy`s penchant for orange golf balls is no longer a problem, so maybe he`s worth considering."
"So Lonewar. Working in sports performance makes you realise that FSG are not actually lying about the ground and signing new players. The rest of us have it all wrong. Your job makes you realise that selling experienced internationals (8 of them) and replacing them with prospects is a great way to run a club. "
"Prospects being the operative word. How many players (not just at LFC) have we seen over the years touted as the next big thing but gone into oblivion? It is a huge gamble mate. Sorry i'm not trying to bellitle you or your job, just don't know how your role makes you see FSG's efforts in a different light from the rest of us. "
"I work in marketing, my line of work FSG and Ayre are magical in. Fair play to them. Borrini may come good, but as I said fans i knew (admittedly only 2 of them) said Borinni was gash. Hendo, Downing are England Internationals and earned more caps, don't see you cutting them any slack. International recognition is a convenient justification of a players talent when it suits it seems. "
"I hope Borrini does come good. But still him, Allen and the other players are hardly great replacements for the wealth of experience and talent who have gone through the exit doors in recent months. "
"If I am honest I feel FSG are doing a great job operating as a busines. Certainly sustainable, LFC will always have a die hard suppport backing the team through thick n thin, although support abroad may waver. So now we are operating like a mid to lower table team and using transition, sustainability, youth and future as an excuse for not spending. "
"What next? Start playing in Blue, share our ground with Everton? The amazing thing is we just have to watch helplessly as these change occur and have to have faith in a Board who don't spend. A manager with no experience and hope that we can get back to the top where not so long ago we belonged. "
"Although now reading back through Ani-rds and rushjobs posts I can understand why they feel let down. Maybe FSG should have set out their stall from the beginning whether or not it was what the fans wanted to hear. I have confidence in their strategy, I just hope they've chosen the right person to implement it.In BR I hope!"
"Anyway. I had my rant. Want to continue with my posting after the game. As the debates/arguements do get a bit tedius ast everyone (me included) Redhendo. Hello, saw you were asking for me. I'm still here."
"hey nice, that was a good read, I work along side some professional sports organisations, all of them speak well of FSG, you might not like what they are doing now, but it is for the right reasons, they tried to throw money at for a quick fix and it didnt work! "
"From my personal point of view, they are creating excellence with their procedures, and when you practice excellence consistently the results can be amazing and a level of success is guaranteed, we are creating a model for long term success, staying profitable but compeive!"
"Ani, the above comments were for you, I enjoyed what you wrote, this season is about getting the house in order so we can take the next step up,(which unfortunately we have to) I have know doubt we will finish above were we did last season so that is a start, one step at a time eh"
"No building will stand for long without foundation, LFC's has crumbled & withered over the past decade. New builders have been contracted in short spaces of time & brought with them short-term solutions. FSG & BR appear to be more pragmatic & are building for the future, the success will not happen this season or even next, but I'm happier we're on the right path now. YNWA"
"Please get Xabi Alonso back if at all possible. He is a RED and would not have left if not for the two idiots that tried to make a quick buck out of LFC and will be one player that will add both steel and incisiveness. Risk-free, true proven class and immense value-add."
"If I was FSG or Ian Ayre, I would not come on here and talk again. I would let BR and his team get on with it. Us fans are an insufferable bunch moaning and whining at every opportunity. Everyone fan is an expert and knows which player to buy, play or sell. Ian comes an talk and those who cried for information damn him for giving it. Fans eh??? "
"Fans just don't accept that there club is a business and that players managers and owners will treat it like a job. Just like we do in our jobs, they make decisions that benefits them and their families. Don't get me wrong I am like every fan, hypocritical, stubborn and feel that every player owes me his soul, but its not the real world, cont..."
"Those who are saying FSG only spent net 35mill are wrong they had to pay off mangers that left, pay millions to agents and wiped out the debt. Having said that if they spent 40-50mill on two experienced players,imo an attacking mid & centre mid we would have a decent balance in the team, youth v experience."
"In our life time, we will change jobs, move for more money or for better prospects. We will take our families needs into consideration. But woe betide if a player takes a similar stance then he is subjected to intolerable recriminations. Us fans are emotional, illogical and downright horrible if a player, manager or owner exhibits what we take for granted in our working lives. Fans eh??"
"Rushjob, in my dads time it was common practice for the owners to be silent. In fact it was an anathema for an owner to make comments. We had the reclusive Moore brothers that no one ever heard from. So why this outcry for FSG to talk. Is their presence going to make Downing play better? I think they have learned from their eager to please first incarnation, cont...."
"and have wisely lowered expectations allowing a young bright manager to operate without too much unneeded pressure. Lets face facts. They inherited a mess and like any business it will take time to remedy. Unfortunately for the owners fans don't get this ethos and expect immediate restoration, cont..."
"well I am afraid that is not going to happen and that is why a prudent approach is best. We have to build wisely, albeit slowly, but in time we will have assembled a team to compete. Ian talks about balance and it's the most important aspect of his comments and he is right with his assessment, cont... "
"But now its time for Ian and the owners to stay quiet and let BR do their talking as it should be. We now have an exciting team and it may take time for them to gel but it will come good. No doubt we will continue with our screaming and shouting and differing of opinions, name calling, etc fans eh??"
"Sneijder is WORLD CLASS and still has miles and miles left in the tank. If he signed for LFC it would give both the players and us fans such a huge lift that could/should push us to the next level. Stop stalling and go and get him, this is a no brainer. YNWA."
"SO WHO WOULD WE PREFER TO BE RUNNING LFC ?? PADDY THE PLUMBER FROM KIRKBY ?? JOE LE TAXI FROM LONDON ?? DAVE THE BINMAN FROM CORNWALL ?? OR SHALL WE LEAVE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ?? TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE CLUB'S CURRENT TRANSFER POLICY. I'M SURE, IAN AYRE KNOWS BETTER THAN THE PLUMBERS, TAXI DRIVERS AND BINMEN WHO SUPPORT THE REDS !! "
"when you say right balance think you mean bank balance get your finger out buying 1 player and getting rid of two when we had a "thin squad" before does not make sense we need at least 2 more players before the window shuts so wake up and do something mr ayre"
"to pob65... you do know snieder has only managed to stay fit for 30 games in 3 years.... yet you want him at LFC, you need to look past players names to see if they will fit, also look into your facts before screaming out for a player!"
"ALL i know is that if we dont sign at least another couple of world class players now we aint going to make the top 4!!!And no top 4 no champions league and no champions leauge????YOU GET THE DRIFT DONT YOU!!!!!!"
"what happened to "the fans will be very happy with the business in january window"from werner and "there is money for players" ayre or is this a last minute £5-50 per hour and a liverpool season ticket for sneijder we're becoming a laughing stock "
"BOB PAISLEY BOUGHT 20 PLAYERS AS LIVERPOOL BOSS AND 18 OF THEM WERE UNDER THE AGE OF 24. ONE OF THE OTHER 2 SIGNINGS WAS A CERTAIN KENNY DALGLISH !! MAYBE FSG'S POLICY ISN'T THAT BAD AFTER ALL ?? KEEP THE FAITH, AND ABOVE ALL, BE PATIENT !!"
"also think its about time that fsg proved that they have ambition for our great club and put their money where their mouth is fed up with all this talk actions speak louder than words "
"LFC THRU THICK +THIN!!
ALL I KNOW IS THAT I AM NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER AND I WANT TO SEE US WIN THE PREM LEAGUE!!!!SO FSG NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GO AND GET SOME TALENT PLEASE."
"LFC THRU THICK & THIN. You forgot Buddha the Baker and LDW the Candle Stick maker. Sorry mate I scarpered the other night. I just heard sirens and saw blue lights and panicked. "
"Lonewar I respect what you say my friend. We can have a difference of opinion but that's good as we can see things from different prospectives. What does get to me is people who post to get a rise, trying their best to wind up! That's not you BTW. "
"lonewar You make some good points. It is also interesting getting a diverse opinion on LFC from 'other' fans and work associates/colleagues like you said. I said the other day how many 'other' fans I know are respecting Brendan and admire his atude to promoting youth as opposed to splashing the cash. contd"
"Peeps I talk to say in a few years it will bear it's fruits. I'm uncertain as to what will happen but happy to go along with Brendan. If there is success you could then argue that FSG have done a fantastic job (a throwback to years gone by when youth, good scouting system, great coaches and manager brought success as opposed to the cheque book). "
"What Buddha says as well I agree with a lot of. Football fans can be demanding. Nasty even, some of the lengths fans go to to mock rival fans goes way below the belt. Football does bring the worst out of people (me included although mellowing with age). One thing I couldn't agree with Buddha though is that it is 'a business and just a job to them'. "
"If I owned the business I work for I could rid of all the staff and outsource to the Phillipines for example. Get work done far cheaper whilst not exploiting the workers. I could work from home saving business rates and rent. Maximise my profits. FSG can do something similar just by ensuring the team is keeping their heads just above water without investing much money into the business. "
"Ani-rd - You hit the nail on the head there. "manager brought success - as opposed to the chq book" That's what I'd love to see. Id like to see us as the deserved underdog rather than the king riches club that buys its trophies. But that's just my opinion.Im sure many will disagree - but im used to it now!"
"REDAHENDO, I ONLY RESPOND IN THAT WAY WHEN PROVOKED. I COME ON HERE TO SUPPORT THE CLUB, BUT WHEN SLY DIGS ARE CONSTANTLY THROWN IN MY DIRECTION I AM HAPPY TO RETURN THE FAVOUR. "
"Make lots of money by signing lucrative deals that come hand in hand with the owning the LFC brand. Brilliant! Their profits are increasing, the club is sustainable yet there is no going backwards or forwards as Liverpool are a nice comfortable mid table team. But all's well because Werner & Henry are rolling in it! #Wahay Unless BR can work his magic of course!"
"tonights forum is an absolute pleasure to read, to LFCTHru, redahendo, Ani and Buddha. I feel a coming together, past is gone, the present is not perfect but I do believe the future is bright. YNWA"
"Am I the only one who realises players move to CL teams first(sometimes it's in their contract!)? That we're not looking to spend wildly but become a financially-secure team. Some want us to buy 10 players every window and hope it works out and we don't end up like Bradford/Rangers. "
"Lonewar - Mate, I am well aware of Sneijder's stats etc, however I do still believe he would be a very good fit for LFC andwould give everyone at the club and us supporters a massive lift. He still has so much to offer. Just my opinion of course."
"LFC THRU THICK + THIN - I agree that it probably wont happen but this is the sort of player we should be attracting and picking up. I never come on here and spout off and say we should sign this that and the other however from time to time I think we should be picking up the odd marquee signing to give everyone involved at the club something to shout about. Again, just my opinion."
"to GT-LFC, lol, I do something similar, and redahendo thank you!! I am ok, I was just over the top abit about the last regime (just passion coming through), needed to mellow, ani and buddha made a pact to move on, I was shocked and I followed the example!"
"Its still comical when I read a fan exaggerate their self importance. Its so easy to be vile but its not clever. It shows an emotional . Comments can be witty, acerbic, biting but above all should be tasteful. Everyone knows I am game for banter but sewer dredging is too much for an innocuous public forum, hmmmm. "
"Ani, you detailed a way to run a business and then admonished FSG for maybe following your blue print. Here is their plan. They buy a football club as a business. They know that a successful club will reap them dividends on their investment, cont..."
"they then get carried away by the magnetic passion of LFC fans and give us what we want, a hero manager and funds to buy world class players. Remember this is not their natural model but they acquiesced. We all know what happened next. So now the owners are now reverting back to what they know, which is slow building and prudent business models, cont... "
"which means instead of paying over the odds for established players who if they fail will have no sale on value and be a hindrance on the club, we now are on the market for rough diamonds. This is a win win situation, as the cost of these players are relatively cheap and even if they flop, they would still be a sell on value close to their purchase price, cont..."
"Pob615- agree with you about sneijder mate, we've just got cole off the wage bill and I really think we need some experience in the midfield. We need a player who can link up with Gerrard like Alonso did, plus he can strike a ball aswel. It would be a risk but a risk LFC need to take! YNWA "
"we also have a batch of exciting youth team players coming through which is a genius move as they cost the club nothing and if they make the grade save the club a hell of a lot. So lets pray that the Allen's, Borini's and Sturridge's come good as that would signal going back to the old days, cont..."
"when we invested in young players and then allowed them to become the future of LFC. So, although, its a slow and tasking route, it augers well for the future. So buckle up. sit tight and enjoy the ride."
"Gerrard o ya beauty - Its not just Cole off the wage bill. Sahin, Kuyt, Bellamy and Maxi are all off the wage bill and were probably high earners also. Yes I know we have brought players in since they all left, Borini, Allen Sturridge etc but I bet the wage bill is still considerably lower than previous seasons."
"Buddha - Everything you say there makes perfect sense (as usual) however we cant rule out spending big from time to time on players that will make a difference even if they are outside the so called age bracket. I'm not saying throw money at it all the time but if and when needed and it will help the cause then its something that FSG must take into consideration."
"Pob615- exactly, it's not all about youth. For me we need some experience in the midfield, we have a very young team at the moment that will be very good in about 3 years, so why not get a experienced player that can make us stronger now, even if it is for a few years. I heard inter agreed a fee of around 10 mill, he's well worth it."
"I just think sneider is not quite right, he is talented but is never as fit as a top talent should be, but the again Joe Cole was never fit and Sneider is certainly a better player.. If we could get him then fine, but on our terms and not his...."
"On a more saddening note. Now that the West Brom game has been changed to a Monday night I might not be able to make it. I only get to a handfull of games per season due to work commitments and an 8 hour round trip so unless I can get Monday pm and Tuesday am off work I wont be able to attend. GUTTED."
"Buddha 1951- cos they said they would. They said they realised the ills of the past regime and wouldn't repeat them re lack of communication, lack of dialect, and lack of fan engagement. I take people for doing what they say- and as such, FSG haven't done what they said they'd do. That's part of my beef with them. That and the fact they know contd"
"Nowt about soccer, have weakened our team, have done zilch of any note re the stadium, don't go to the games, didn't attend Hillsboro memorial ceremony, didn't have the guts to come over here to pot KK, and worst of all- have removed the vending machines on the Kop! FSG out! :) "
"Lonewar - I know you touched on it earlier but during 9/10, 10/11 and 11/12 seaons he has made 108 apps in all comps which works out at an average of 36 games per season. I know he hasnt played much this season which is why I havent highlighted it but we all know the reason for that. 36 games a season aint bad in my reckoning and far better than Cole's turnout."
"Not on a wind up, but have heard today that Torres and advisors been locked in talks at CFC as he wants out in January. Wants to stay in England, and first choice is a loan back to us. Any takers on that? ....."
"Redahendo. Yeah, ideal world football would be like it used to be. Think as we get older we quetstion the wrong doings in football which does taint our love for the game somewhat. It has for me and many others I know of my age group- 21 ;). "
"hmmm. torres back at anfield... really not sure rushjob, I love him as a player (the torres of 2 years ago) can he find that form again, as he would want the sturridge position? and tobe honest I prefer sturridge, hungry and keen to prove himself!"
"Rushjob - Id love to see Torres back (as his old self) but only after a couple of weeks of destroying CFC. Same for Rafa - although id give him the rest of the season."
"Dare I say this as my hatred for United I share for no-one or nothing else but I do have a slight respect how thay have been able to keep up with City and Chelsea. Ok they have far more loot than us but they have been quite prudent, much how I would like to see us. Better than a sugar daddy buying success. "
"Lonewar, Correct, you would have to throw him in and see. The old catchphrase, if you dont buy a raffle, you dont win a prize. It worked well for VDV down at Spurs so you just never know."
"Rushjob, they have learned from their mistakes. They came into our club too eager too please and made what would be normal comments in any other business's but not football because us fans will hold them to it. When they said they would be visual that was before they saw that fans are an unreasonable bunch and blame them for every ill that happens, cont..."
"regardless if its their fault. So now they are reticent and I am happy with that. So no more tumid promises, we now have pragmatic speeches from BR and today Ian, who got slammed for saying the truth, lol. We have got what we deserve, battle scarred owners who now know that appreciation is not our strongest suits. Fans eh?"
"Ani - Nauseous - Tell me about it. My intestines popped out of my mouth earlier. Don't worry its all out of my system now and I can get back to Buddha Belittling on a grand scale."
"Buddha- every ill happening at LFC presently is down to FSG- it's as simple as that. They are the decision makers, Ayre is just a scouse mouthpiece. And most of the decisions they've made have been wrong, and costs our club money, which puts us further and further back. I look at Aston Villa- and I shudder.......... "
"Buddha. Been typing/deleting trying to reply to your vision of FSG. I really want to buy into it but nothing fsg have done apart from the very start of their ownership has inspired confidence in me. Rushjob pretty much summed up my thoughts on them. When will this so called prudent approach bear it's fruits? Another 5 yr plan! The youngsters I am excited about and do share your optimism."
"does stevie g look happy? no, if stevie not happy then somethings not right. if stevies happy we are all happy.
i can see trouble ahead if fsg dont get their act together, first multi billionaire that comes with an offer snatch his hand off, the games all about money, and it looks like we have a lack of it.
ynwa
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"updareds- you are actually pretty spot on there. Defo agree with 'G'. He must be so pi55ed of knowing yet again we are being run by clowns. He, you, me, all of us deserve sooooo much better. Spirit of Shankly's standing grows and grows and grows...... They are just waiting to pounce....."
"Rushjob Heard anything about Wesley (can't spell his surname) coming to us? Rumour mill increasing about talks but I can't see it. Too much money to pay a guy who has seldom played last few yrs, also would see a pay parity dispute occuring with other players..."
" Torres. Would I like him back? You know what, after seeing him so helpless at Chelski part of my dislike has wavered. Sure a couple of goood games and he coud become a hero in my eyes again "
"We need our Captain to tell us if he is happy with Ayre and BR's youth policy. There is a risk that we may lose our top players like Reina and Suarez. Gerrard is approaching retirement. Can you see Sterling, Borini and Allen and co mounting a challenge to the PL. Ayre, are you need to find the money to buy Sneider like Manu did to buy RVP."
"Updareds - I hear you about SG. I think that's more the fact that 1.He was disappointed we lost Kenny. 2. His career is slowly burning away and he may have regrets as it doesn't look possible he will get a PL trophy.Whether FSG were here or not we'd probably be in the same pos. "
"Ani- nothing on Sneijder other than rumours pal. Reckon if he was available for 8 mil and 80k a week there'd be a queue of clubs and the way FSG dither, we'd probably be at the back! "
"We should all be here for the long run. Lets get those big European nights back 1st. Lets make ourselves famous again (Hey Rushjob?) And then hopefully we will have a team in their prime to win a few les. the odd FA Cup and CL wouldnt go a miss either. "
"Redahendo. Being a fan isn't a choice for me. It's just how it is. It'll be so sweet when we do get back to the very top. I will gloat, then gloat, then gloat some more. YNWA- sleeptime.... Zzzzzzzzzzz"
"Yes and that's why we haven't beaten any top six teams. We have the right balance to become a mid table team. Our senior quality players need to speak out so that BR and Ayre get a reality check about whether we indeed have the right balance or not. I want to hear it from Stevie and Carragher not from Ayre or BR!!!"
"Nite chaps. I'm turning in. Now for some real dynamite. The LFC THRU limerick.
There once was a fan named LFC THRU THICK +THIN. Whos script could cause quite a din. He wrote in caps to annoy all the chaps. He wanted nothing less for his club than a Win! BOOM BOOM"
"Powderfingers limerick: There was a kid named powderfingers. Who drove cars that were said to be ringers. His words never made sense. Although kept some of us fans in suspence. Which is Y at school he used to pull all the rs! Nite Nite"
"No Ian we haven't got the right balance, signings of the caliber of remi, m,villa and snider for total of 25 mill makes our squad stronger. Instead you offer trial to some inknown defender who choses Southampton over us, and now Blackpool chairman is accusing BR of harassing him on phone for Thomas ince. I'd understand if it was for alonso or snider . We have become a joke under FSG an BR"
"Well ayre has also said he defends the dempsey deal and if we had done that trade we wouldnt have got sturridge. Thats the reality at lfc now.Might as well forget any big money signings for this window and concentrate on thrashing norwich and moving up the epl table."
"What worries me is this transfer policy of FSG which basically stops us from making signings such as Gary mac, or someone of that ilk to enhance young players. And it's clear we need mid general like diame or M'villa but FSG will probably sign some model from Sweden who is 21 and has some 3rd tier experience. Who's grandparents went to a Boston Red Sox game!! "
"It's true rajusa Blackpool chairman refuses to pick up phone to BR over ince! We don't seem to posess ability to do astute business behind closed doors anymore. We just harass clubs and get charged by the FA"
"If you see Suarez comments on Argentina espn he says English media is pro manure the papers don't pick it up just thAt he said he dived vs stoke. They are protecting their investment keeping the truth hush hush "
"Yeah might as well call the english media, English Manure. I dont know why they have this axe to grind with LFC and suarez in particular but one day the truth will come out just like the 96."
""If we feel there's a particular position or player who can contribute to the group and is over that sort of age limit, it doesn't mean we won't consider that player." Is Mr Ayre leaving the door open for Sneijder ?"
"Rushjob makes a lot of sense. But. It was FSG who saved us from administration. It was them who then gave a lot (A LOT) of money to Kenny (or Comolli) to buy a number of players. Alas, the majority of the newcomers turned out to be flops. I, for one, would be extremely cautious of whom I give my money next. "
"FSGs absence may be best explained by their confusion. They simply dont know what to do. Rookies to the game yes, so whatever they decide is the result of listening to advisors. FSG - to use a baseball term - badly struck out - once and are now kinda clueless methinks. "
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16th Jan 2013 10:18