Bottom line BR got it badly wrong and took way to long to change it even then i dont think he made the right decisions on who to take off. And 2nd half was better but way too late, maybe the manager should kick Allen after that, not encourage bad performances.
"TO START WITH 1 STRIKER AT OLD STATFORD...WERE NOT BARCA ...WE LACKED EVERYTHING FIRST HALF...JOE ALLAN,,WHY DID HE GET GAME TIME..STURRIDGE COMES ON AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DID ANYTHING...BAD CHOICE 1ST HALF.."
"Sterling had Evra at the free-kick. Then as Evra moved away, Sterling just left him allowing Evra to have a free header!
It was good watching us attack and have three men in or around the box. We could have easily got a draw out of this game!"
"You were not brave enough in the beginning Brendan. Your team was playing to passive. Is it no coincidence that one of the few times Gerrard got forward it created a chance and let to a goal? Gotta rethink your tactics and find some creativity in that midfield. We had to pull our leading goal scorer into the midfield to even see the ball. "
"we lost because of raheem sterling seifishness. before man u score he got a ball and he wasted the ball because he wanted only to dribble. and if you watch his game it is a complete selfish game. I don't what his mum tell but he has affect our game a lot today and also break breandan plan. downing was invisible also. "
"A draw would have been a fair result as Liverpool were the better side in the second half. I feel the only mistake BR made was not taking Downing off earlier as he was invisible for the whole match. I feel the moaners will be back and they will be added to the list of numpties I have already created. "
"terrible first half so much fail passes lucas and allen dont work well together sturridge should have started instead of downing second half we played much better next time we get them come on redmen!!!!!!"
"If we continue like the in the second half, the future will be bright. We are better than what we showed in the first. Give Rodgers time, and we will close the gap."
"I'll take heart from the second half performance, everyone really put a shift in. Luis looks good in that no.10 position. Don't understand why the first half was so poor... Looking forward to the next game. "
"I think the problem was Allen-Lucas-Gerrard combination in the first half. Allen was particularly dreadful in the first half, and Lucas stll isn't back to his best. Suarez was isolated too. We did better in the second half. Walk on....YNWA"
"For how we played for more than one hour it must be considered as a good result. We are not the same class, OK, but we should have show more. Positive: Suarez and Sturridge are looking very good together. Negative: our midfield was very very poor. Keep on going! YNWA"
"disappointed, anyway globally a decent display specially in the second half when Dan Sturridge came on. Poor first half too much defensive-minded, we did not find the target and globally did not keep the control of the game. Some arguable subsutions by BR. Let's hope we bounce back soon from this defeat, we need plenty of points to reach our target! YNWA "
"I dont know why Liverpool dont play whole game like they play at last 20 minutes.. Joe Allen shouldn't have been even at the bench.. And why Suso was out of the squad? Its not reasonable.. Lots of wrong decisions made by Brendan"
"Don't play joe Allen for the rest of the season, he is diabolical ! He's not the player I thought he was, I've seen enough of him this season to know he offers nothing in attack and nothing in defence. Very very poor display today from everybody except Agger and reina, we Had 1 shot in the first half, off target, thats religation standards! YNWA "
"seriously need 2 stop playing allen in AM, was so poor in the 1st half. sturridge is proving 2 be a rather gd buy(should hav scored an equalizer though). BR needs 2 realize tat we must adapt our play 2 the opposition, we r not strong enough 2 just keep using the same tactics everytime"
"For how we played for more than one hour it must be considered as a good result. We are not the same class, OK, but we should have show more. Positive: Suarez and Sturridge are looking very good together. Negative: our midfield was very very poor. Keep on going! YNWA"
"Great 2nd half performace.I said there goal was oide without seeing any replays.Shame we never started with a more positive att!tude and had to go 2 down before we started attacking."
"Well done in the end lads, but why did it take the best part of an hour to even get going? Thought the passing in the final third in the first half was woeful. Sturridge did well, Allen and sterling not so well. Badly need a new number 10. Come on fsg get the dollars out. "
"we lost the match from the bench. surprise to see Lucas subsuted whilst Allen continue to give the ball away. Not a single intersection by him, only one tackle won. Sterling had too much minute on the field for me. Going forward, I think BR must put some trust in older players in bigger games like this. Great second half though."
"I wish Sturridge had been given the start. Henderson is the man on form in mid field.
Suarez and Sturridge will form a good partnership. Chose your strongest team Brendan Manure had it too easy. If a player is performing badly through lack of confidence on the pitch get him off. Best finish likely sixth. If we get Sneider who knows."
"Be realistic guys. Although BR got it wrong with allen, sturridge was way to short on match fitness to play from the start. He should start against norwich, and then i think we will rule! PLenty to be pleased with in the 2nd half perfomance "
"Disappointed losing to the mancs, again. BR should have started with a more physical presence in midfield - with Henderson instead of Allen. As I said before, cut off the wing supply and manu struggle to score. I guess our team just not good enough today to do it. Better luck next time - ynwa"
"tale of 2 halves....great job by Sturridge. Believe that DS and LS will create problems for many teams. Do not beleive that Borini was ready to come back just yet. Defense was good. Allen is USELESS!!!!!!! please do not use him anymore...YNWA"
"Funniest comment of 2013 so far "we lost because of raheem sterling seifishness." lol. Keep those coming mate, we're going to laugh about that all week.. Brilliant. Any other gems? "
"BR got the tactics wrong in the entire first half!!! That's very disappointing and annoying! was shocked to see Sturridge on the bench! He turn out to be decisive player! We could have won that game had we put in d same effort 2nd half in first! "
"We played a lot better in the 2nd half. 4-3-3 is not working for me. Went 4-4-2 and it seemed to suit us a lot more. well done to sturridge thought he played well when he came on. Think a change of formation could help us in the 2nd half of the season
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""Can any of us watch the replay and see a single moment Downing tried to tackle or take away the ball from Man U players. He just gave distance and let them a chance to pass. Where they ran, he ran too but never pressured or attack. Why can't BR see this and let him stay full game. Both BR and Downing should be gone."
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"Hope brendan see who are the players that are paralysing his tactics and take severe amendments because these players don't make lfc proud. please someone tell sterling mum to speak to him and change his atude and if not he can go to another club. because lfc will never progress with him"
"Lets be honest first half was awful and after that we were playing catch up.suarez,allen,downing and sterling never turned up,sturridge looked great when he came on.Oh and utds second goal was off side,shame the pro man commentaters didnt pick up on it."
"Gerard o ya beauty, how can u write YWCA after that comment. Shocking. As for subsutions made by BR don't think they were too bad, Lucas had a yellow that why he was subbed and anyone f sterling or downing could have been subbed. And saying he took t long to change things.......45 mins is long enough for sturridge to come on when its 1-0"
"Disappointing result but was really promising to see 2nd half with our 3 first choice strikers ls/ds/fb playing together, couldn't start ds/fb because they're not match fit ... yet. But can see those 3 tearing defences to shreds in coming months/yrs, the future looks bright my fellow reds"
"BR is not smart enough to figure out. Stering is better on the right. Sturridge is great on left.
Downing is just nothing. Allen is too weak and defend. "
"Missed Enrique too. Having to move Johnson to the left makes him half as effective and we lose the threat our wing backs pocess. Gerrard too deep. Particularly if you are playing two non creative players in Allen and Lucas. Gerrard should have had plenty of coverage to get forward!"
"Sensational match as ever. Never mind the result but it was great 2nd half. Our rookies had gained alot of positives and exposures at OT. RVP should have been contained in the 1st half like we did in the closer. Keep going boys. YNWA!! "
"LP need a manager that can save the team from the hands of British players.downing,NGO son,Alen,...what were they doing?and wisdom deprived of talent not good for a team this big. giving too much respect for ManU british players are not big timers."
"i dont agree with the Rodger´s selection of the team. Hendo should have been in for Allen, maybe Downing on the left back, or should not have played. Sturridge from the beginning and then subbed by Borini"
"23 years ago fergie won against a table topping Lfc.BR should have at least got a draw.I'm a afan of br but BAD tactics. R9 ronaldo was asked if he like to play at the beginning and be taken off or brought on.he always said he prefers to start as its complicated later in a game.STURRDIGE SHOULD HAVE STARTED.LFC have this problem of playing well for 90 mins.BR still hasnt fixed that."
"Let's face it, Allen is the flop of the match, I hope Liverpool can bring Sneijder into the team, do what you can to get him, because our midfield is not good enough to bring us top four, I hope we'll improve next time #YNWA"
"We all knew it was going to be hard to get the 3 points today, but very promesing partnership up front between LS DS FB, very good showing, very positive stuff, and the best thing is that this is just the begining of that partnership. Good things ahead of us!! 2 more big games ahead, lets do it Reds!!! "
"This is on Rodgers. In the first half he used a wrong formation. In the second half he kept Allen instead of Lucas and he expected for Borini who had not played no one minutes in the last 3 months to make a difference! We are 2 top players (a winger and a play maker) away from being league contender and a world class manager."
"Good 2half.Pink Nose vs.B.R.=2:1.Allen was very bad,Lucas need to stay,Sterling-benched,Sturridge-from 1st minute.These mistake cost us.Positives-we finally have serious forward-Suarez and Sturridge.Borini need to come from bench sometimes.And less back balls,for the sake...YNWA>"
"Good 2nd half performance - Sturridge made a real difference...Suarez disappointed for once...Sterling was completely ineffective...Allen too lightweight but worked hard...Wisdom, Skrtel, Gerrard, Johnson played well"
"Thought the second half display was good, but I was getting frustrated throughout the first, wished Sturridge and Henderson started and I cant wait for Sturridge and Suarez to start gelling, its going to be scary. Imagine if they started together today Brendan? Next game rectify it please"
"Strike force is back, and for god's sake, get behind our team, it will turn good. I was born with a liverpool shirt giving to me by MR BILL SHANKLY, so move on you stupid so called FANS and get behind our ONE & ONLY LIVERPOOL FC. YNWA...
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"We have good players like Shelvey daring to fight. He s benched. Suso is a good technician..benched.
We won't get any trophy this season, guaranteed.
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"Agree with Jethro118. Rogers din learn his lesson. He has been keep choosing the wrong team to play. He has to learn his lesson & change his tactic. Playing with such BIG Team he has to choose more experience BRAVE players. What a poor 1st Half we had."
"The game is up for downing, time to rest raheem, time to loan allen and a desperate need for creative midfielder. we are worse off now than we were under kenny and we still have city and arsenal away!! the name in those three envelopes that BR had at the start of the season might have his name in there too."
"that was bad sorry we gave them way to much space in the first half and i think allen should be dropped hes not good enough for the team and br got every thing wrong he needs to learn how to pick a team and make them play with passion we were second best to a bad united team not good "
"The reason why Henderson and Sturridge didn't start is beyond me..i knew we were going to lose once i saw the team list..no surprises. If i were BR, i will play a simple 4-4-2...why are you complicating life for yourself?"
"Guys, it's easy to say BR was wrong after the game after seeing how players performed, half of you are the people who said sturridge shouldn't even have been signed, so who really is wrong?
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"like usual BR will come with his stupid positioning player..try to do some experiment..but its a big game, u just wasted it. we wont get 4th position with this type of ur stupid tactical..WASTED"
"Manu were better today and I don't think Webb really needed to help them much, Allen showed his quality once more... RVP's goal was a tipical no9 goal and if we would have had a player like that we would be fighting at the top, Stewart puts better crossess all the time but there is nobody there.. we lost fair and squere.. get over it.. bring on the next game and lets win thaf one!!"
"For those complaining about Suarez's hand ball, why didn't vidic run to the referee that he should have give a corner when he headed the ball out? No sentiments.."
"We also desperately need a CREATIVE mid.BR knows this.Two def mids are no good against top teams.We need a real brazilian type playmaker, find the new ZICO please! In the 1st we were constantly overrun, because the link up play was not there.A creative mid would fix this.Good 2nd hlf.We need to push on now, make sure we do not deflate."
"To sum up I think it was not a bad match, we played well in the second half, but...
I think Wisdom is not good enough to play against Manchester, and nowadays Sterling plays weakly as well.
And I think we should have started Sturridge in the first 11.
But this was not bad:)"
"Johnson was overconfident, but can't surpass Valencia and he 's not sharp enough for long shot, looking good , but not good enough.
Sterring is better on the right, why put him on the left. Wasn't BR there when he scored or assisted scoring? Poor vision from coaching team."
"Wow, we played brilliant in the 2nd half and it does not a take a rocket scientist to know why.I urged that we be bold and play an attacking line up and unfortunately we didn't. Sturridge and Suarez is a must, with Sterling or Borini in the supporting cast, cont..."
"Few Facts:
1) Vidic goal was off side. But defending was poor for that set pieces.
2) Riena was much better in second half, expecting persie to have one touch shots.
3) Sturridge's goal was result of good work of gerard but that indicates we have someone who got flair, who gets into box and can finish. Contd.."
"Poor first half how on earth Allen gets picked is unbelievable he was weak as was our centre backs we have a weak underbelly which costs us time and time again we get bullied we lack a hyppia style centre back n a tough tackling midfielder we need to give Coates n carra or a new centre back required, no point in playing good for half the game it's about 90mins "
"Rodgers OUT. Stop playing your lovechild Allen. He makes Lucas and Henderson look like world class players. Awful player, too many mistakes, backward, sideway 5 feet passes, cant shoot, can't tackle, useless."
"Poor first half and starting line up. Lucky and proud of the team's performance in the second half, and glad Rodgers realise it and make the subs. Well done ! YNWA "
"In general we are relying too much on youngsters. Sterling, Suso, Shelvey all too young and inexperienced to be playing regularly. Wisdom seems acomplished and an able deputy. Allen awful today but got better. Hard to summarise. Never seen a game were Manu were so dominant, battered us! But then credit must go for a spirited 2nd half by us! "
"Thanks2Shanks what game were u watching? Allen showed his quality......... And downing crossed but nobody there? Haha downing didn't cross more than once and Allen kept taking bad touches. People say he's too weak but he doesn't even try to dribble past players so being weak has nothing to do with it, you think Barcelona's team are physically strong? No"
"Well played 2nd half. What irks me about Allen like Carroll, Hendo and Downing before him is the transfer fee. They will never be more than 'solid'. Surely we had reserve kids who can do what Allen can do? LS and DS seem like they can combine well. Nice to have options. BR needs time, end of the year at least."
"4) Riodgers wanted to dominate the midfield. He had put 4-3-3 today instead of 4-2-3-1 working for us.
5) Allen plays from left of the midfield so choosen over handerson. He failed badly.
5) Our midfield performance was poor. Both Allen and Lucas were poor. lucas earned a yellow which got him subsuted over allen. contd..."
"Allen has a shocking first half but then mysteriously came alive once Lucas came off, he remains an enigma. It sad but Downing chose today to be ineffective and I am afraid any last vestiges of of good will from us has evaporated. If you can't bring oneself to perform against Manure then its bye bye, cont.."
"Well played 2nd half. What irks me about Allen like Carroll, Hendo and Downing before him is the transfer fee. They will never be more than 'solid'. Surely we had reserve kids who can do what Allen can do? LS and DS seem like they can combine well. Nice to have options. BR needs time, end of the year at least."
"United were there got the taking Rodgers was too cautious Allen unbelievably inept we should have played Hendo , downing very quiet but we gifted this game to united with woeful defending poor team selection bit on the positive side second half much better and sturridge n surez have the foundations of a decent partnership but agger n skrtel n reina need resting time for changes there "
"Thanks2Shanks what game were u watching? Allen showed his quality......... And downing crossed but nobody there? Haha downing didn't cross more than once and Allen kept taking bad touches. People say he's too weak but he doesn't even try to dribble past players so being weak has nothing to do with it, you think Barcelona's team are physically strong?"
"And when time was almost gone, Suarez showed his selfish. As long as him think he's better than another teammate who just stood there at better spot to shoot, he won't pass and we get nothing.
Can you deal with players atudes, BR?"
"I've always said Hendo would turn things around for himself, but now I have to read comments saying how good he is and he should have started from people who were haters of him after his first game, some Liverpool fans are turning into a fickle embarrassment these days. BRENDAN ROGERS AND LFC YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE"
"Obviously a very poor first half, but BR should not have Allen and Lucas on at the same time. Allen and Sterling were horrible. It's too bad Lucas got a card, he should've stayed on. Sterling holds on to the ball too long, and is too small to mix it up. Let's see what's the selection for Norwich is. "
"poor 1st half better 2nd half. couple players were . need to improve and could do with 1 or 2 better class players. will be usual suspects saying sack brendan etc. anyway redmen keep the faith. still plenty of points to play for so need to get back to winning ways.must say thought webb was ok today. YNWA always"
"And yep, why didn't vidic run to the referee that he should have given a corner when he headed the ball out??? just because he is Vidic and not Suarez... why dont we blame on Vidic as well??? why always Suarez?"
"we have seen the limit of downing today. i think he is not in the standard of lfc. he will play when his is only at risk to be sold and he is back he will continue to flirt around on the pitch"
"For fans like me, I think most of us agree we lose the game because we played very badly in the first half. BR should have sub Allen 30mins into the game but he did not. Big big mistake. I can only said we deserve to lose for the way we play in the first half. But if we can perform like we did in the second half then we can climb up the table"
"Stirling is clearly shaded and needs resting and can someone tell me what Allen does apart from getting bullied n passing the ball sideways is he any better than spearing Hendo n why pay 15 m ?? We need a Schneider style playmaker a ball dinner with pace and a big centre back who can clear his lines and a keeper of presence
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"7) Sterling is too immature. He needs development time. good that borini and sturridge have come.
6) Suarez was left with downing, sterling to score against manutd in OT when his every touch was getting abuse from crowed. Rodgers should have come with better plan then that."
"Tactially outsmarted in the first half. Gerrard should play in an attacking postion and create changes. Other midfielders must take responsibility for defending. The way the team finished is the way they must have started. Get rid of timidity!"
"I find only mistake to start with Allen. We could have easily drawn the match and take a point. To support Stevie, we need a exp player like sneijder/alonso. You can see everythng is initiated by Gerrard. For the goal also, sterling was reluctant to shoot and gave to Stevie to shoot. I must no reason why we can't win other games. YNWA"
"I hate to see us lose to United! even if Daniel is not fully fit we don't have much of choice! He should have started the game! and we could be jubilating with our 3 points now! Sloppy goals we conceded! really annoyed but YNWA!"
"BR out no hart no commitment until the game was out of sight, the Mancs will be thinking thanks for 3 easy points. This is not a reaction to 1 result but several gutless displays that have turned us into a mid table team. Allen not good enough not getting the best from Gerrard all over the place "
"I like the football Rodgers is trying to play, but he needs to find players who can do the dirty side of the job as well. Sterling downing and Allen don't do that. Need a kuyt or Bellamy skill but know how to get at defences and make them panic. Lost this game in the first half, second was better. Sturridge needs to start Henderson over Allen any day. On to Norwich we need a good response. YNWA"
"we lack of confident to win at old trafford. plus wrong tactics from stupid BR. why lucas out not allen? borini coming from injuries to played the big game??? Hendo is attacking midfield not the defensive player.lfc must start with experience players.
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"They scored a fortuitous goal from a set piece and maybe I am being a tad harsh but I thought Reina should have done better with it. We are a work in progress and everyone must agree that there was some very encouraging things on display today. "
"JOHNSON was the whole game. Wisdom had a very decent game. Suarez was isolated upfront in the whole first half.
Suarez + Sturridge + Borini was very exciting to watch. But those three were playing together for the very first time, so maybe some communication problems and etc. They will get better."
"The 2nd half display made up for the incoherent 1st. RVP (with respects) use to salvage the game for MU even just seconds before final whistle, was made to look mere passenger. Beleive me. We just need to improve on with present momentum. Goals will start flowing in. YNWA!!"
"And most importantly our midfield was nowhere the whole match. It's a very disappointing performance from Liverpool but i hope and pray we get better."
"9) Team selection was very poor. No handerson, no shelvey, No Assadi, allen does not go forward. Downing is good when he is given enough space, something a team like man utd never allow, sterling is too immature to handle ad deffence of evra, vidic, Ferdinand. So sole taks of scoring was on suarez and bossing the midfield on Gerard. Poor From rodgers.."
"Overall very weak first half, i was still waiting for sterling to show up for the game, allen played like a school boy, downing played ok but nothing special. i wont say the defense was bad i think it was more the midfield wasn't holding possession as it should so made the defense look real shaky. "
"As i was watching the game i noticed something interesting. United get the ball out of defence fast and do all their passing in front of the opp goal. We on the other hand keep passing it round the back even 2-1 down. Are we trying to win a game or play keepball???Brazil and Arg also now play a pressing game in front of the opp goal.so just who are we trying to emulate?"
"First had we just didn't turn up but with the changes second half we played well and deserved a point. Their second goal was oide but we should have done better defending. The game was too big for sterling. But his time will come. Allen was poor 1st half and better in 2nd. Uhhhh??? Pleased with sturridge. He will do well with Luis I'm off to drink myself into oblivion!!"
"Just to reply to a few comments talking about formations. 4-4-2 is not Liverpools best formation as it will not work. It works for United because they have 4 attacking wingers and 4 strikers. Liverpool have 2 attacking wingers and 3 strikers which is not enough. "
"I'm not happy with the result but I can see things changing for the better, we played against one of the best teams in Europe that are walking the premier league and we frightened the sheet out of them right now we are a mid table team but we are on the way back, that game could have gone any way."
"Giving the ball away backing out of challenges, I don't know where we go from here I really don't best sign 2 or 3 experienced players that are LFC class but that will not happen never mind we got Borini Allen Assiaidi and Sturridge because they are better signings than Suarez Carroll Downing and Henderson aren't they?"
"Anyone on here saying BR should be sacked clearly do not understand its going to take time which has been said since the start, ifs can't wait for a few seasons then support someone else because u clearly aren't worth anything to LFC just coming on here after we lose to abuse our manager and players. "
"Well I think he was poor and I think we should have kept Sahin and played him instead, I consider him better than Spearing but I think if we gave Coady the games Allen has had he would do better. "
"4-3-3 formation can not work for Liverpool.Until BR realizes will just be that team that is always "unlucky".4-4-2,4-5-1 or 5-4-1 will get us convincing wins.We have Man City & Arsenal away.Possible 9 points to be lost."
"10) Fergie played intelligently. he identified that wisdom is young so kagawa played from left so against wisdom (instead middle). Big game, against weaker player. That worked for him, The buildup for first goal started from him picking up some confidence. "
"Learn from the first half, build on the 2nd. Once we can play as we'll as the 2nd half for longer periods, we'll be taking teams apart. Really very very positive even though we lost. SAS gonna destroy teams. Borini very sharp too. We move on to next weekend...."
"ALL YOU NUTCASES, LEAVE BR ALONE!!!!
johnson was terrible ( cant wait till MARTIN KELLY IS BACK) allen was poor as was sterling. where is assaidi??? assaidi, suso > downing, sterling,
and borini was fine"
"11) Shelvey should be trained to play from left of midfield. (handerson playes from right ). With sahin gone and allen not good for offense he must be developed for that role.
12) Suarez plays better if he is bit deeper so no problem in sturridge leading the attack.
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"Can't believe macateer on lfctv says we don't need a defensive mid n we got Allen in that role , Jason a defensive midfielder is one who has pace, can tackle n has a presence and can break up play all characteristics Allen hasn't got !! "
"bad defending for both their goals from two of our most experienced players,Van Pussy very good for his goal.we should learn from our mistakes and take a lot of heart from 2nd half performance, I feel very optimistic for the future."
"12) Tough game, good second half with regular players. Going forward it should be 4-2-3-1. gj/wisdom, agger-skirtel, enrique/gj; lucas, gerard; downing, suarez, borini; sturridge;"
"I took abuse yesterday from some fans wearing rose tinted glasses , well here I am today to say this, I called the result , I was right, not out of pessimisum but a realistic view of Liverpools ability. Utd were always going to win , fifty odd mins before we had a meaningful shot. Blame who you wish but this is FACT LFC just aren't big enough anymore to go toe to toe with the big boys."
"i agree with lucas being subbed as there was a red card with his name on it in webb's pocket. also we could have lost skertl and johnson to reds aswell. Lets face it, we are a mid table team that punches above its weight in some games and we have been since 1991."
"Its not Brendon rodgers fault that he is not the tactical genius that drunknose fergie is. To make up for that defect, BR will have to work very very VERY hard instead. this team is so hit and miss these days, its best not to predict anything anymore. We take it as it comes. End of."
"The one good thing that came out of that defeat is that BR now knows that he should be playing Suarez and Sturridge together. The 1st half line up was all wrong. The team seemed nervy and made glaring mistakes...even Stevie. Well this is a rebuilding season and I hope we do get one more attack minded midfielder!"
"Bad tactics first half. I wonder why Stevie G was defensive midfield instead of Jordan H. Ithought Allen looked poor going forward and nearly gave another goal away with a back pass. 2nd half great and this was what i was expecting to see in the first half.Sturridge and Suarez partnership will flurish."
"were not far away in this league but we need a midfield enforcer badly a souness mcmahon or young gerrard and with that the games there for the taking..is it me or should reina have done better with the goals ynwa"
"It may be difficult for people that have no tactical knowledge to understand how poor Allen is... he is to poor to play the defensive deep player, so they try playing him in the playmaker role like today and he is like santa that pops up once a year, while Hendo and Stevie play the role much better. Today was horrid from that point of view no quality in his position."
"belfast, i was one who said your enled to your opinion dude. Yep, TRUE lfc fans cant live in LA LA LAND. As another post said we are punching above our weight these days and only in some games. Thats why we struggle agasint lesser teams also. All this will need much time and effort from the coach, management and the fans, so stick with it! YNWA"
"Its all easy for u to judge the players and manager after the game seeing how they played. I know the first half was very poor but second half we got the players in and we found the rhythm in the game..its not long before we achieve what brendan has tried to achieve here in liverpool..onwards and upwards ynwa liverpoolfc is the best..Haters can switch to manure .disgrace"
"Please get Sneijder. Also, get Huntelaar who has a 15mn euros or pounds buyout clause in the summer. If we can get these two players, next season we will be competing MANCS klubs for the PL. Next season LFC vs MANU: 2-1, both home & away games."
"Glen Johnson also had a poor game together with Raheem. I think they both need to curb their instinct to drrible out of all situations when a pass is the better option. Downing was isolated this game because of poor tactics and service to him. Raheem needs to be used as a sub for a while. Borini looked very sharp today and i expect good things from him."
"When Rogers came in I spoke of my concerns over his inability to see anything but 4-3-3 and his faith in players he worked with at Swansea. I want Rogers to go. As long as we have people like downing, skrtel and allen in our team we will keep slipping to become a permanent mid table team."
"WouzerLFC 13th Jan 2013 16:03 ..well said pal, of course mistakes will be made by players and coaches alike at first, this plan will take seasons and I'm looking forward to supporting the great LFC and everyone involved in the club from the manager to the guy who cleans the showers. YNWA "
"It was so painfully obvious that BR got his tactics wrong first half. Allen is having a very poor run of form and looks decidedly lightweight when he wasn't 6 months ago. Sterling all of a sudden can't dribble to save his life. And were we trying to pass the ball into the net?? Shots on goal only started when Sturridge came on. "
"Allen not good enough quality, looked far better with Lucas, Henderson & Gerrard across midfield in previous games, Allen makes poor decisions & caught out of position far too often. If Rodgers going to be top manager, team has to be capable of different formations instead just moving bodies round the 433"
"Allen not good enough quality, looked far better with Lucas, Henderson & Gerrard across midfield in previous games, Allen makes poor decisions & caught out of position far too often."
"Allen not good enough quality, looked far better with Lucas, Henderson & Gerrard across midfield in previous games, Allen makes poor decisions & caught out of position far too often."
"Gutted but I am looking at the positives. There was plenty to work with in the second half today. Even their supporters were edgy second half as they cd see we were getting bk into the game and were unlucky. By the way those asking where is assaidi. African cup of nations. Our bench was much better today. Best for a long time. Walk on walk on with hope in your heart .......YNWA"
"Allen not good enough quality, looked far better with Lucas, Henderson & Gerrard across midfield in previous games, Allen makes poor decisions & caught out of position far too often. If Rodgers going to be top manager, team has to be capable of different formations instead just moving bodies round the 433"
"Allen not good enough quality, looked far better with Lucas, Henderson & Gerrard across midfield in previous games, Allen makes poor decisions & caught out of position far too often. If Rodgers going to be top manager, team has to be capable of different formations instead just moving bodies round the 433"
"BR got it completing wrong.he went for defensive game.shelvy should have started.sterling is not the player who could match the darbis.i think he should have been on the side line.most of the games he does not perform.Does BR know how we supporters feel after this game.Allen was flop today.BR is just one of the days at his office,he will talk about next game. "
"Two main things really... One. Why didn't Sturridge make the starting line up over Downing or Sterling as this was just too big of a game for the latter player? And two, our formation and tactics were wrong. We were too one dimensional in the first half and we all know that United have the lousiest midfield and over confident defence in the league. "
"Fans have to manager their expectation. For Rodgers, he is doing ok. His first task was to "balance the books" after the craziness happened last year and half. He has done that well (I want to see Riena go for a good deal). he has signed assadi whose looking promising, allen (below average signing), borini (too soon to decide). "
"I would settle for the poor first half and loss if, but only if, BR's learns that we need DS with LS up front and to go at teams for 90mins, week in, week out. "
"TheOnlyRealist I think you are bit unfair on Skrtel who has got us out of many a deep hole. He is the only defender that attacks the ball when it comes in from the opposition and he did make a goal line clearance today and done so previously. Allen needs time in the reserves to sort himself out."
"I thk all fans agreed that if Sturridge is fully match fit for 90mins, the scoreline will be different. However, there are positives to take from this match. 1) Striker problem solved. Lucky we missed out dempsey. Daniel and Luis combined well. I see Daniel scoring more goals once he regained his sharpness. Con't"
"Allen was leaving a gaping hole in midfield. Hendo seems to hv come on a bit and is proving himself like Lucas has. Good for him. I agree that we are still finding our way, but it can be painful to watch at times. BR still has my backing, but Shanks would hv dropped Allen by now and made him earn his place back."
"We played the league leaders with a rebuilt young team & lost 2-1. What have some ridiculous fans got to complain about! Admittedly we were 2nd best in the 1st half, but our 3 strikers demolished them 2nd half. Can't wait for the rest of the season - brilliant progress BR & team - those who whinge need to wake up & realise our predicament. YNWA"
"Utd is a tough game to win and if your squad is not fit its tougher and sadly we could not but that was more probable result. wasn't it? Why blaming Rodgers. I am happy that we gave utd a panic in second half after scoring and a team like united who is known for its last minute goals was contained in its own half for much of a second half with just one goal lead!!! thats good performance."
"BR .. Plz let ur ego go as J.Allen does nt even deserve to be on the bench, Suso is far better than him. We just do not have a good midfield.. desperately need Alonso back, but for now have Hendeson and Lucas as holding Mid F with SG behind Sturridge and Suarez and Suso/sterling as wingers .. YNWA
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"Alot of positives to take from that. Must start with a positive setup. If you pay a big price for a striker, and you say you needed strikers, play two strikers. Overall, well done, but need to start with two strikers. Proud of the lads again though, getting better. Gerrard superb effort and leadership. I like Brendan, i think we can improve. Sturridge looks excellent."
"BOTTOM LINE- we cannot expect kids to do the job of men.Buy an experienced left back. Wisdom played well but was left wanting a few times ESP the goal. We know Raheem's got talent...today his immaturity showed...not ready to be thrown to the wolves. Why not start Hendo. Why not play LS and DS. 4 2 3 1....diamond formation with Downing/Gerard/Sturridge.....LS front"
"and talking of expectation management, downing is a player who can do good if given space, top teams will never do that and he will fail. But against average team he can be good. We must use him, and see if he can develop else he should be a regular for europa, fa, carling, mid table epl. transfer fee is a bad business done, but his wages are ok. So he should be kept, utilized. "
"2) BR score a pass this january Transfer. 13million spent with 2 goals in first 90min (one from each half score against Manu and Manfield) Wish you were here last season to spend that 120 million KD have. Con't"
"Inexperience of BR confirmed in today's game, tactical approach poor first half, showed too much respect to United, Gerrard should have played further ahead of Allen to supply Suarez, Sturridge should have started, Allen was weak, need another attacking MF. On the positive though good comeback second half"
"As predicted earlier, unless we buy 2 technically gifted players who can deliver the ball to the strikers from midfield, we will not be competing for anything meaningful. Yes, we will all come and say we support the team, but that isn't going to change anything by itself. Qataris could do the trick, FSG willing?"
"BELFASTWILL ...you are right we are a mid table team at the moment.....at the moment...Brendan Rogers needs and the, team need time and support it will come, we will be great again, a very good 2nd half performance against one of the best teams in Europe,it's not ideal at the moment but we'll give them our support anyway...wont we? YNWA"
"Jimmmy007 Agree with 100% about having Hendo and Lucas as defensive midfielders and Stevie G just behind Daniel and Luis. Also Borini looks good to come on as a sub in attack when needed. Raheem needs to make right options on when to dribble and when to pass. Shelvey as a switch for Stevie, Hendo or Lucas. "
"And finally a striking pair upfront with pace and skill. Sturridge and Suarez look the real deal so we shall see once Sturridge is fully match fit. Midfield needs sorting out. Reina looks very vulnerable these days. maybe too much passing going on just in front of him. "
"Inexperience of BR confirmed in today's game, tactical approach poor first half, showed too much respect to United, Gerrard should have played further ahead of Allen to supply Suarez, Sturridge should have started, Allen was weak, need another attacking MF. On the positive though good comeback second half"
"I do agreed that Sturridge (If he fully fit) to take over Sterling for such physical game. Gosh. Daniel really can hold the ball well in the penalty box. Allen shld be benched and his position to be taken over by Gerrard. A Playmaker (hopefully Alonso back) to take over current Gerrard position. Allen, Downing, Henderson Sterling shld only be in against lesser until further improvement."
"oh rodgers why oh why didnt you start with sturridge in the beginning? manu deserved to win. we had only 1 attemp in the 1st half, thats why i think we need a good creating midfielder n a backup DM. Great that sturridge scored on his debut. he could have put in an equalizer.so sad"
"Please buy XABI....we need 2 holding mid. Raheem/Wisdom/Suso/Shelvey/Hendo/Allen not yet top end PL quality....will get there undoubtedly. Gerard must play behind LS. We are destroying Allen's confidence....play him in low key games....he will come good. Tikka Takka philosophy can still work with 4- 2- 3-1. We don't have any one pulling strings in midfield...PLS BUY XABI"
"Its always easy to offer suggestions in hindsight, but none of us on here are in the dressing room 24/7, so we have a limited insight into why players are being played or not. Please just support what is going to be an amazing revolution at Anfield."
"Lets face it we are still a long long way off from getting into the top four let alone top of the league
and 4 or 5 player are still not pulling their weight
so poorer "
"Why didn't BR play Sturridge from the start to support Suarez? We played well second half but still need more firepower. Another striker and snider in midfield. Gerard has said it we need experience players in to blend with youth. Sterling couldn't play today. Encouraging signs but how many times we ve seen this!!!"
"Why do you fake supporters even bother coming on here and ripping into Rodgers, your either a true supporter and get behind your team and manager or else get the hell off this site. We didn't get going in the first half, lost the match by means of an oide Vidic goal against league leaders. YNWA"
"Don't agree we ended up playing 4-4-2, I believe it ended up more like a 4-2-3-1... Still keeping attacking shape of 4-3-3, but with more flexibility in attack."
"I LOVE HOW SKY HAVE GIVEN THE GOAL TO VIDIC WHEN HE WAS OIDE TODAY WAS ANOTHER CLEAR EXAMPLE THAT RODGERS IS OUT OF HIS DEPTH HE HAS NO CLUE WHAT SO EVER THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHANCES IN GAMES THIS SEASON WHERE SHOOTING WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION BUT WITH RODGERS STYLE OF PLAY ANOTHER 4 UNNECESSARY PASSES ARE MADE THEN WE LOSE POSSESSION"
"Rushjob9
13th Jan 2013 16:07 "And for people who questioned my sanity when I said a number of weeks ago that Spearing was as good/bad as Allen- ill leave it with you.....".
i'll 2nd that rushjob like for like only spearo got more guts in tackle
"
"FANTASTIC TO READ SO MANY POST TODAY. KEEP IT COMING .....KEEP IT POSITIVE. THIS IS WHY I AM PROUD LFC. GUYS ....IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT HURTS TO LOSE AGAINST THEM BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. THE ROAD WILL BE LONG WITH MANY A WINDING TURN....KEEP THE FAITH. WE SHALL OVERCOME....YNWA"
"Stevie G said he was excited about the second half of the season???
This was a disaster!!!
Come on FSG START AND GET SOME TALENT IN THROUGH THE DOOR BEFORE THIS WINDOW SLAMS SHUTS.WE ARE COMPLETLY FLAT I DIDNT EVEN WATCH TODAY CAUSE I NEW WHAT WAS COMING:-("
"JAYBL1988 - I bet you didn't say that when we were winning the last 7 out of 9 games!! How fickle people are when something goes against us, looking to stick the knife into Rodgers straight away. This style of play suits us and our players and yes it is effective. "
"Brendan keeps saying he is proud of the lads after every bad result, maybe this is one of the reasons we lose so often, he's just too nice to a fault. what is so praise worthy about losing? Ferguson has never been proud of his players after they lose. Our mindset isn't working, it encourages failure. Failure should never be tolerated, never. We are just not good enough, that's it! "
"That was the most satisfying loss of the season. First half we were really poor and the 4-3-3 wasn't working. At least Rodgers was gutsy enough to change it to 4-4-2 at half time. Promising performance from Sturridge who made the difference when came on and Gerrard was lively. Allen and Sterling were poor today and overall it was too little, too late."
"Allen really needs to sort his head out, it's like he feels sorry for himself, you can tell he isn't a Strong character, he's too quiet on the pitch and needs to start being positive and show us that he's worth 15 million! Hendo isn't that much better he can't see a pass either, we are crying out for a Sneijder/Alonso sort of player who pass the ball forward! You should only pass back last resort"
"I'm fed up of people on here saying, 'oh its fine we played well in the second half' im sorry people you do not get points for 'playing well'. We need to sign some world class players, Sneijder for 8 mill is a bargain, cole and sahin both high earners have moved on frees up the wages! "
"How much had I missed the old days of Rafalution that opposition are changing their tactics worrying about us. Rafa didn't need even to rotate much. Nowadays it is always we worrying to cope with our oppositions. We even have this problem w/o Rooney.... "
"BR why change a winning team? Lucas & Allen in midfield doesn't work...
Against Sunderland LFC played the best football of season... so again why change ... please BR pick the best team not your favorite out of form players... Lost the game due to poor management..."
"Don't u realise that maybe Brendan rogers didn't tell the team to to defend sometimes nerves can play a part. All you saying it Brendan rogers fault need to wise up. He can't control how they play, he can only tell them and they have to do and nobody knows what he told them. And man united weren't that much better in the first half. There first shot was the goal and didn't get many more."
"Sturridge is showing all the right signs, that's a goal per game so far, Keep it up lad, when you get fully fit you can score 2 goals per game if you like!!"
"I said all along that BR is not up to the job ! Why oh why does he insist on playing Allen, oh, because he paid £15m for him so he's in the team for good! We need to send BR off into the sunset !"
"Billy B Girl - Your the one that should be sent off into the sunset with your constant negativity, why do you bother coming on her when all you do is keep making your point that your not behind the manager, go support Chelsea then. True fans can see we are on the right track and just in need of quality signings that we will need to be patient in order to see this team built into a challengers."
"idiots on here moaning bout skrtl,agger and reina get a life,theres nothing wrong with our defence its our midfield thats the problem and why is allen playing between our c/d's,BR has some strange ideas but we all need to stay calm."
"said this before, our team isnt good enough to play 4-3-3 should play 4-4-2 with stevie g behind suarez and sturridge with lucas sitting deep we been caught on the counter too many times this season. i dont agree with this possesion game we play - too predictable opposition get the ball from us punt it forward n score on counter "
"We're the best team in the land....oh no....sack everyone......we're the best team in the land....oh no....sack everyone......we're the.........yes, you get it. I'm fed up with the knee-jerk comments I have to read on here. We've gone through periods of rebuilding & change in the past. Yes it's not easy at the moment, but we need to stay cool and not over-react!"
"Would have been great to have got a result today, but wasn't to be. Glad Borini is back as I thought his positional awareness seemed top class before his injury and just needed a couple of goals to get his career going. Sturridge looks full of potential. At least the four teams above us didn't capitalize on this setback! Is that your birthday buddha? Same as one of my ex!"
"We loose we get all people here when we win only regular ones!!! Today's game was disappointing but I dont think people should react as surprise. Man utd in OT!!! People should be happy what they saw when sturridge, borini, suarez, downing, Gerard were there. "
"Borini, Sturridge, downing/sterling/assadi, suarez, gerard. These 5 will crush any team once they are fully fit and have developed some understanding of each other. this provides creativity (suarez, gerard), flair (suarez, sturridge), set pieces (suarez, gerard), counter attack (sturdige, sterling), long shots (gerard, downing), bodies in Box (borini, sturridge), finishing (borini, sturridge)."
"Defense with regular four +lucas is good. But Riena and skirtel has to be challenged constantly. they are prone to complacency. if we get good price for riena then we should let him go (all due respect to him) , it will release the wages can be utilized in a classy play maker. "
"By the way the first goal from persie was high class skill but evra was given too much of space. Young wisdom's inexperience caused that. and then he blued one very good chance to score. :-( .. Hope he is a quick learner. YNWA.."
"Rubbish team selection by a mediocre coach who keeps his faith in Allen who cannot make impact during any big match. BR! You need markers in your midfield. Period! I keep saying that. I hope someone somewhere is listening."
"get another striker and sell Downing in the January window. We need that fourth striker. Where's Ince? that should complete our midfield options. Come on lads YNWA"
"DANIEL STURRIDGE ?? THE DANIEL STURRIDGE, WHO ACCORDING TO LFC FANS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS "S***", HE'S SCORED 2 GOALS IN 2 HALF GAMES ?? OH DEAR, WHERE ARE YOU NOW ?? YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE !!! "
"JOE ALLEN'S FAULT TODAY APPARENTLY. I DON'T LIKE POINTING THE FINGER BUT I COULD HAVE SWORN GLEN JOHNSON WAS AT FAULT FOR MAN.U'S 2ND GOAL. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, JOE IS THE CURRENT DANNY MURPHY OR EMILE HESKEY !!!! WHAT NEXT ? "SACK BR, WE WANT STEVE KEANE". "
"Red to the core 1658. Just my opinion. Which I got slated for. Allen was superb when he joined. Been poor lately although improved 2nd half. Not here to scapegoat players. Do think if we'd bought DS with the 15 million, we'd be higher up the league. Allen looks like the pressure of being LFC is getting to him."
"Rushjob9 - agreed. Chin up mate. Look forward to the next game. 40 plus years of ups and downs with this great club has turned my hair grey and my patience brittle at times but we all got to stick together no matter what happens even if we disagree with each other you know what I mean? Still think we should go back to 4-4-2 (yeah I'm old fashioned brought up on the 70's and 80's teams)"
"Does anyone know what our actual targets are for the next five years including this year? After all Kenny got the sack after one year for not getting top 4."
"Rodgers, you did right. We practically owned Manure in the second half but the first half was equally depressing..BR, you'd have to stop giving Joe Allen the 'preferential treatment'. Why do we need a player who passes the ball 5 yards sideways or simply, passes it backwards?"
"We got the tacticts wrong..The occassion was too big for Steerling. First half, we did not press Man Utd as we should. We showed Man Utd more respect than they deserve. Second half, with Daniel On, was better. But it was too late.....We dont need to be chasing games..."
"Its only when ur team get beaten that you realised who are the genuine fans and who are not. A genuine fan is someone who supports and will continue to support his team even if the latter get beaten. what i am seeing in this forum makes me sad. Come on guys!! did we stop supporting lfc when it was last relegated? certainly not. The team must be given some more time to be stronger. "
"When Ferguson came to M Utd he was already a very experienced manager who won everything with Aberdeen (over Rangers & Celtic) and was latest Scotland manager. That's why they were patient with him to succeed. But BR is inexperienced with very few years in management (only 1 in premiership) & won NOTHING yet. (continued)"
"(continued) So the risk of appointing him from FSG was very high (anyway who advised to hire him?)I wonder if the fans will be patient for more years with an unproven man who is clearly out of his depth at a great club. His assistants do not even come close to Steve Clark's level."
"BR once told fans that Allen will be a very important buy for LFC & will be worth twice the amount paid for him one day. Don't now how much he is worth now, but Carroll carries much greater threat in the opposition box & scare defenders, leaving much needed space for others. BR speaks too much & puts undue pressure on his players "
"WHY DO WE KEEP BUYING PLAYERS FROM BOTTOM TABLE TEAMS?WHY CANT LFC BUY CHEAP BUT GOOD PLAYERS FROM SPAIN,S AMERICA ETC.BOTTOM LINE WHY CANT THEY EVER FIND AND BUY A MICHU OR BA?15MIL FOR ALLEN 20MIL DOWNING,16MIL HENDO...2MIL MICHU,7MIL BA ..WAKE UP LFC."
"We played like crap in the first half. We were scared to play football. Joe Allen isn't good enough to play at LFC first team. He simply can't compete with the opponents. Not only in this match. Sterling looked like he was afraid to face Manure. He allmost never succeded his passes, and was too selfish."
" I think that BR made the correct subs. Glad to see the drive and eager at both Sturridge and Borini.
I have great expectations for Wisdom and Suso in the future. YNWA"
"We didnt deserve more at all. We lack class, creativity and muscle. Man of the match for LFC was Sturridge. When he came on he showed that hunger. Too little too late. The mancs still had 2-3 more gears in them when we were full throttle. No hope with this transfer policy!"
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