What I can't understand is that Tom Werner said explicitly that the FSG has the funds to compete with any other club. The combined wealth of the owners is supposedly billions. They said they had the money. Now they say they don't...
"If we dont have big finance, just get rid of FSG. Have many people would like to owned this club. FSG just make this club only as a memories of the past. He just give a empty promises. "
"If FSG dont have big money, just get out of here FSG. Have many people intrested to owned this club. FSG just make this club only as a memories of the past. He just give a empty promises. "
"If FSG dont have big money, just get out of here FSG. Have many people intrested to owned this club. FSG just make this club only as a memories of the past. He just give a empty promises. "
"BTFI having the money and spending the money are 2 different things after KD wasted 110 mil i would also step back and see before throwing more money at a new manager, any big signings will be in the summer if at all. LFC YNWA"
"Maybe saying there is a lack of funds is just a ploy. Although I believe not much money will be spent this January. There might be more come the summer. I think fsg wants to see how BR gets on this window. Also in previous windows when we mouthed off about how much was available when we went in for a player the price went up. We'll soon find out."
"you would think after six mounths he so caled style of football would come thru cant see anything close to what he said .they even fogot how to pass looked like they lost passion for the game"
"fsg assessment they dont want to spend poor buys allen borini wrong style play 60 posession in our half barca real madrid penertrate in opossition half we have poor midfield and a manager with poor tactical knowledge finallyi would love to see rafa back "
"can but agree with BTFI henry and werner said they could compete with europes top clubs and would be able to bring in any players that were avaliable we will basicaly put lfc back were they belong now its oh well just be midtable cos baseballs more important coz thats what we no alls they bought lfc for was the name because were known all over the globe if they cant hack it then sell up"
"BTFI: I can understand why the owners wanna wait until the summer and let Rodgers splash the then, instead of over paying for players in january and then come in to a new team in the middle of the season, it makes more sense to wait till summer when BR will have a chance to look at the squad and how it has evolved during a full season, "
"Kwakaman: KD didn't waste 110 million. We sold to buy. Sold Torres, Babel, Macsherano, Merieles etc. Suarez was a bargain at 22 mil, Carroll was overpriced but could be awesome for years to come. Hendo captain of England U21...Downing showing class..."
"BR you are trying to bull us again, the fans are not happy, it was your decision to choose so many young players to cut cost and satisfy the owners, now you are blaming the many inexperienced young players. Liverpool team is made of many short (small body) players. You signed & still signing poor players. Also you are afraid to criticize the owners, I wonder to whom your loyalty belong to? "
"BR you are trying to bull us again, the fans are not happy, it was your decision to choose so many young players to cut cost and satisfy the owners, now you are blaming the many inexperienced young players. Liverpool team is made of many short (small body) players. You signed & still signing poor players. Also you are afraid to criticize the owners, I wonder to whom your loyalty belong to? "
"Brendan is full of BS and excuses just like FSG!!This great club has been torn apart by lying cowboys and a manager well out of his depth. The team are playing rubbish and the points tally this season is a disgrace, excuses and lies are all we hear, both Brendan and FSG need to leave the club ASAP. "
"BTFI- you are right. JH reiterated that in his closed letter after last transfer window. But our biggest problem right now is this mule. "If you're a manager going to Stoke there are three things you emphasise: the direct ball through the middle, corners, and throws-ins. And those were how we conceded three basic goals." and he kept Coates on the bench."
"BTFI..It's called lies FSG and it is all part of thye epic LFC swindle. It's all about tomorrow with FSG and their man Rodgers and as we all know, tomorrow always comes tomorrow. Profit must come today though.As bad as Gillett and Hicks. "
"It takes time for players to settle in especially if there are few of them and they are young. That's what happened last year. BR is a good coach. I have faith but we need to invest. Maybe Jan is the wrong time. I pray we have a strong second half of the season so we can get real quality in the summer then"
"we have the money, FSG are well off, did any of you read the financial reports and the knock effect of the silly spending spree we had, crippled us within the bounds of thw fair play rules. we will be more free to spend once we balance what we spent, ie £35 million, equals a £7 million loss per year over his contract, then add his wages, "
"we have £10 million a year less to spend without a decent future value (sell on)to balance what was spent.. then throw in downing, hendo, all severely depreciating assests... then selling profitable assets (Ince) on the cheap... Not good! if we had a return on investment like CL football the all good, but KD went for the cups and not the league... and you are all happy with that... shocking"
"so if you have not read the financial reports that were published on this site, please do not question FSG, they took a big risk and trusted the past regime to get CL football back, and it did not work, throwing money at it is not the way to go for us, build slowly, but surely and we will get there..."
"People slate KK spending £100m, well, Bodgers will have spent £44m if Sturridge and Ince show up. And look at the state of his signings. Bodgers hasn't even got faith enough in his own signings to play them. They get sickies. We were 9 points ahead this time last year under kk."
"Lonewar- if you believe that, then that's your choice. We are going backwards and are officially a mid table team- because we have a mid table manager, and mid table owners. Wake up and smell the coffee will you. Incompetent rookies from the top down. LFC- laughing stock."
"all of rogers signings have a decent sell on value most have increased in value, so far he is perfect with his signings, sterling signed a long term contract was about to leave last summer could potentially be worth £30 million in five years, rogers added that value to the club, "
"then all the current players that are all signing long term deals, add further value to the club, very very proud of fsg and rogers for giving us that stability and bright future."
"rushjob, all I have stated is fact.... thats it, it was researched and published, and explained by tomkins himself....!! these are not my opinions just a statement of fact! once we sell carrol and co, the books we be more balanced so we can move forward. "
"Allen and Borini decent sell on value? Are you taking the pi55? 26 million spanked on 2 very very ordinary players- not forgetting the 62k a week of Sahins wages. Face it- Rodgers tenure so far has been a disaster. Going backwards- and as I said when Lonewar, Buddha etc were berating KK and calling for his removal- 'be careful what you wish for'. We swapped a decent motor for a moped!"
"Lonewar am i hearing u right rodgers signing have good sell on value joe allen 15 mill lol lol borini 11 mill lol rodgers never originaly signed sterling as for rodgers never rated him but if the yanks are happy with him then so be it after all is there business( lfc) that they bought"
"Martin Broughton, former British American Tobacco boss, found fsg for us, and got a 500,000 bonus for doing so, as well as whatever was given under the table. Lifelong Chelsea fan. First thing lfc do upon sale to fsg- sell torres, then benayoun, then meireles to chelsea... Next fsg will lease them our trophy cabinet to raise funds!!!"
"Lonewar- ill state a fact. We are a mid table team. We have a manager not competent to be running our club, and owners who can't even be ar5ed to be at the games, or spend any time at one of their 'franchises'. Stoke fans laughing at is. Not interested in FSG B/S any longer. Our club is being 'ran' by spin doctors and majority of fans see through it."
"And if BR thinks the fans are sticking with him- he's warped. LFC fans will always stick with the team- but get on the Kop and you'd be stunned how fed up people are- as fed up as under Hodgson. #fact."
"all of you expected miracles, not me, I expected progressive change over a period of time,I clearly see that progression even if you guys cant. I was expecting top 6 this season, then top 4 next season and that will happen!"
"Rushjob is one of the very few who sees things as they really are, Brendan has been a total failure and is full of excuses week after week. Nothing will change under him he is simply not experienced enough or good enough to be manager of LFC and the sooner people wake up and see it the better. 25 points from 19 games is dreadful and all the BS and spin cannot hide that fact. "
"God. Some of you lot are like a bunch of moaning old women! I appreciate things on the pitch have been far from acceptable. But I aint about to blame FSG for that. KK ed away 110mil on substandard players & a League Cup?? When you get your fingers burned, you aint about to stick your hand back in the fire are ya? We were told from..........."
".........the start to be patient & thats exactly my stance. If its still the same situation this time next year, then start crying, but the bloke has only had 5-6 months to turn KK's dead woods into something decent. I am much happier now the club is in a stronger financial standing."
"The comments on here are NOT the comments of real supporters, they are the comments of young keyboard warriors only. They have no understanding of what being a real supporter means. BR is a good coach, we have a young developing team and given good support, he will succeed."
"not getting a striker in the summer, and having that option is what let us down, and I believe Ian Ayre is the man who failed Rogers not FSG.... that has made a difference to our season so far, so lets see how the second half of the season goes.. "
"The only positive is the lack of investment points to FSG only being here for the short term. And given they bought us dirt cheap in a stress sale, they will likely get a good return. The sooner FSG sell and go, the better."
"thank you DM86 and Terry, some sense being talked, Rogers has had to change so much in such a short time, then not getting the striker s in the summer like he was promised held is plan back a bit, but make an opinion on him next season!"
"Consistency is also needed from what you are talking, when we win you think we will finish 2nd or top four & when we loose you need a wee bit of time. Shut up and do the talking on the pitch."
"Lonewar- we've needed another striker since 2008! Yet BR spent the 15 million that could have got us one on Allen- who is no better or worse than Spearing. If BR wasn't such a media darling, if for example he was AVB- he'd be getting Pelters by now. Look at Steve Gerrards face- one guy who simply DOES NOT believe. And as a loyal fan since 1982- if SG doesn't believe, neither do I. "
"managers, and owners should not be 'serving their apprenticeships' at Liverpool Football Club. It's effing wrong, and I'm utterly fed up with Franchisees screwing us fans over season after season."
"It is sad to watch those who constantly called foer Kennys sack last year writhe at the new manager that were soooo happy to see doing no better than woy. Bodgers:Reading-The sequel."
"to brucelee, I knbow rogers didnt sign sterling, but he managed him in a way to resign with us, the same for saurez and the rest of the squad that are following, so the players love rogers, but most were planning to leave this time last year wonder why...."
"BTFI YOU ARE RIGHT TOM WERNER DID SAY WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO COMPETE WITH ANY OTHER CLUB. NOW BR IS SAYING WE DONT HAVE THE SAME MONEY AS OTHER CLUBS + IT WILL TAKE LONGER TO BUILD A TOP TEAM !! DO WE HAVE ANOTHER HICKS + GILLET AS OWNERS ? PROMISING THE WORLD BUT DELIVERING NOTHING"
"the funds will be released once we balance the books a bit more, and when FSG become more experienced with the PL transfer system, they got it wrong 24/18 months ago, we all know that, they know that, to much trust in one person, who genuinely though he was doing the right thing, but unfortunately cost us..."
"If anyone had studied the accounts in the public domain they would see that FSG are funding the club with debt. FACT. And not much of it. They would also question the exceptionals and see the urgent need for the revenue stream of a new stadium for FFP compliance whilst being contenders. Fact is, FSG are making no investment of their own. "
"brucealmighty- I reckon we do yeah. Stadium no further on than the day FSG rolled into town. I reckon they've taken on more than they can handle. Hence, don't even go the games anymore, no communication with fans, etc. Just like our manager- Full of hot air and words."
"AC30- the zillion global corporate stamps at the bottom of this web page concurs that. More interested in rounders. I want owners that live, breath, eat, drink, and sleep LFC. Solely committed to making us great again. Not absent franchises who know FA about football. "
"Our squad is better than Westbrome, West ham, Swansea & St but all of them are on top of us. Brendan you are best on one thing which is talk talk talk. You even talk you tactical plan before games which benefits the opposition team. "
"BTFI , Spot on some of our fans don't understand how a transfer truley works! If you add all those players up that's a total of £88 million the owners only spent the 22.5 million on Suarez, I thank them for that the other buys carroll needs confidence and work a little on his pace/ strength he would have an awesome future at Lfc Henderson class in the middle stick him with Gerarrd and Lucas "
"It was widely known and understood before the sale if the stadium wasn't a priority we would recede into mid table mediocrity.Which is of course, what we are, and always will be. The biggest mid table club in the world. Very profitable. When was Henry last at the game? That is how interested FSG are in LFC. FSG OUT."
"I hate to be a doom merchant but i just can't see us improving, the players he's bringing in just don't have enough quality and the players we have are not good enough ,the owners are holding us back big time, this buy em english and young nonsense does'nt work, we need a stronger spine with more experience... dark days ahead... out with the yanks!!!! " "
"The usual soundbites "youthfulness and growth""we don't have the big finances"different era""the reality in terms of where the club is at"
If you go shopping for the ingredients for dinner with loose change all you will get is sgrag ends you,will need to be the mother of all chafs!"
"BTFI Mr Werner says we have the bread to compete with the best teams in the league, but not that we will spend them as it would be needed! A count is the potential, another is what we do to take advantage of that! YNWA"
"John Henry doesn't come to the game because he hasnt the spine to sit at Anfield knowing that he bought the club dirt cheap and is running us down. After all, Anfield is only 6-7 hours from Boston."
"Rushjob, old bean, I suggest a long walk in the country side, you are ranting like an old man. You of all people after your myopic support of KK should at least give BR one season. You afforded KK a season and a half and was still asking for more time even when he was making a bigger pigs ear than you can paint BR with? Be consistent with your outrage, cont..."
"If Rushjob and Ani Rd and many other fiercely loyal supporters of this club who always back the manager to the hilt can see that Brendan is not the right man to take us forward then it's time to sit up and take notice. Give the manager your full support but not at the expense of blind faith. This is a results business and the truth is we have gone backwards under Brendan. "
"I do agree with a few doubters of FSG in regards to their visibilty at the club, and also in regards to stadium plans. and I have said this before, less talking by rogers and players would be nice! they set themselves up for criticism all the time.."
"Buddha- I don't need you to advise me as a fan as to what to think. I have my own brain for that thanks, and if you disagree, that's fine. No issues. My beef is with FSG. They make the decisions, they make the calls, and so far are consistent, in making the wrong ones. Clowns the lot of them. We are as bad as under Hodgson #fact. "
"I do love the passion we all have though for this club, we all want the same thing and all have different visions on how to do it! if we get top six this season will any of you be happy?"
"And if KK was making a bigger pigs ear than Rodgers- lets see if we finish above 8th this season and 2 Wembley appearances. Do me a favour Buddha, don't preach or patronise me. Most if what you post is utter drivel- but I respect that as your right. Return that resoect."
"Lonewar, if we got top 6 this season- I'd swim the Mersey- naked. I'd be happy to stay up this season under this rabble of rookies. Steven Gerrard knows...."
"Rushjob, if you read carefully Lonewar summarisation, you will see its exactly what you were chiming not too long ago? The fact you have gone off track from your own directions is a matter of serious puzzlement. Anyway, we have long deduced frustration is playing havoc with your senses but sir recognising this usually leads to remedying it, so chill out sir."
"Rushjob, you are going to be wrongly labelled a keyboard warrior due to your uneven rants. Its quite ironic actually as you were once the voice of reason. When some of us railed against the demonstrably bad course our King was pursuing, you urged patience, now its you who should practice this art. Give BR one season at the very least, wouldn't you say?"
"We are tired of the excuses.Everton,Westbrom are not in a better position finicialy. BR and the owners mentality should change i could bet anything redsox will not go tenth John henry wud do anything for redsox why cant he do the same for liverpool fc.funs demand a quality players to be brought in.noexcuses .ynwa"
"Lonewar69 yes you're absolutely right we all want the same thing but just because see things differently it does not make someone a bad supporter it just means we care deeply for this club and we disagree. We are all enled to our opinions are we not? And they're all pretty much valid. Being a loyal supporter for over 40 years it breaks my heart to see us fall so far from greatness. "
"Morinho took 1 season to win the pl, wenger 1 season to do the double. Why do our players need a season to learn a new system? Weak excuse..... I backed kenny to the hilt, but there is something a bit wet about br, and i think the players pick up on that. I don't recognise lfc anymore."
"Rushjob, I understand in your frustration you will lash out and start name calling highlighting your decent into uncontrollable outbursts but if you opine then be ready for responses. I won't join you in needless mud slinging as as it will take us off an informative path, so chip away sir, but it won't change the course of this discussion. "
"Yet again we have got American owners who don't have the cash we need as fans. If they did they wouldn't have bought in and gone for a higher profile manager. 10 th in the league is not good enough. Rodgers has got to except it is not good enough. He goes on like we have been unlucky,no we have been crap "
"Kingmat, it would be a direct comparison to Mouriho situation if we had the same calibre of players Madrid had at his disposal??? The more cogent question based on your synopsis, is do you believe Mourinho would have achieved winning the league with the players at LFC, I wager not. "
"The unpalatable truth to some is that BR is not a miracle worker but has a methodical plan that requires patience and prudence. If was given the same amount as KK to change the team I have no doubt he would have achieved better dividends. So now he he is handicapped by past regimes and yet some admonish him, really?"
"Buddha- I'm not calling names. Never have done. But as I respect your posts, I'm asking for the same back. Just remember when I said 'be careful what you wish for' then look at the league. Maybe KK totally overachieved with his 'misfits' last season. Cos 8th a cup, and a final visit seems like a beautiful dream presently."
"The reason some are making hilarious predictions of where we will be at the end of the season, which in itself is comical as none who are making these wild guesses are oracles, are because they are impatient and lack the ability to wait for the facts. The season will soon end, wouldn't it be prudent and wise to assess then, or is that asking too much? lol."
""THEIR SUPPORT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE", EXCEPT ON THE COMMENTS SECTION ON THIS WEBSITE !! GLAD YOU DON'T READ THEM BRENDAN, PLENTY OF IMPATIENT, FICKLE AND CLUELESS KNEE JERKERS !! YES, THERE'S BEEN UPS AND DOWNS, BUT THE MANAGER AND TEAM NEED 'SUPPORTING' !!"
"Buddha- and remember, when I post like this out of pure frustration, it's just as you were doing a year ago. Simply role reversal. Then I backed a failing manager against your views, now you're backing one against mine!. Respect and out as got a zillion better things to do today than play on here. Rant over. KTF YNWA I love FSG. Pep Rodgers is god. X"
"FSG were a saviour at a time of trouble, so I've no complaints there but this is LFC and we demand to be challenging for trophies.We brought in a relatively unproven manager and under BR I can't see it happening. We need inspiration not desperation."
"hey red to the core 1138, I agree we all have our opinions which is great, otherwise none of us would be here commenting and we would not have the debates we all do. And Rushjob 1134 I will hold you to that lol, as I am sure we will make it to top six this season, and borini and allen are class!"
"Rushjob, I have noted you being the voice of reason last year and you should do likewise with my posts this year. Saying my inputs are utter drivel, by the way are insults in anyone's books, but no offence taken. but you should temper your outbursts and leave out the personal slurs like I did when I was ranting last season, but as I said no offence taken. "
"Not wanting to sound Trevor Brooking like(sitting on the fence) but i can see both sides of the coin.It's not just the results,i don't think the performances have been that great.I am not a season ticket holder,but have been to a few matches this,season and will be at the Sunderland match and yes their are a lot of disgruntled fans in the stands....."
"Rushjob, when you liken Allen to Spearing I then realise we have gone seriously astray as I am better than Spearo and I am not joking. Seriously, the point my learned friend Lonewar is making is sound. Both Borini and Allen have increased their value but can that be said of any of the misfits, hell no. We now have a prudent plan and its being implemented slowly. "
"FSG paid our debt, they hired Kenny as the fans wanted, they gave him lots of money and he failed badly.. The problems this club has, started when hicks and gillet took over and FSG are still cleaning up and figuring out the game, give them and rodgers time.
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"GT-LFC, your reasonable assessment is what all of us should follow. BR has had one transfer window and half a season to correct a woeful situation. No right thinking fan would expect BR to come in and rectify our mess immediately. Let calm heads prevail and give this young manager at least one season and then we can judge. "
"Sorry buddha, i meant 1 season at chelsea, but then he did have an owner there that backed him so it is probably a poor comparison too, so i take your point."
"To Rusjob.. I am shocked that a man whos opinion I respect (you) can say allen is no better than spearing, That is laughable, allen has been an instrumental tool in creating our current style, and like carrick is an unsung hero! that comment from you alone shows me you are commenting though emotion and not reason! not like you at all!"
"GTLFC, ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON WITH YOUR COMMENTS !! PERSONALLY, I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES WHERE FSG ARE CONCERNED. YES, THEY SAVED US, AND THEY ALSO HANDED THE CASH OVER TO KK. BUT AS BTFI SAYS, THEY SAID THEY HAD THE FUNDS TO COMPETE WITH THE BEST.... LET'S HOPE SO !!"
"BTFI It's because they have no idea what the word "truth" means. It's all a series of lies, lies and more lies. There has been no progress, no investment and judging by their attendance, no interest. Rodgers was never and never will be the answer. Sturridge will never score 30+ goals a season. The club is falling apart and becoming a laughing stock. Stop chanting Rodgers name until he delivers. "
"To GT-LFC, we have money, but we have to balance things out, and with the ins and outs by the end of the season, we will have a very good summer to spend, with no excuses from FSG. The will have achieved what they needed to under BR to put the correct financial plan in place!"
"those who Keep Ranting about FSG Needing to Spend Money, or should I say Splash out Money, do you guys have Money yourselves??? Do you know the Energy it takes to Make Huge sums of Money?? After Spending Money Senselessly on Comolli and the King, they must behave like Wise Business Men and Recoup before Jumping Back into the Spending Spree. Just Shut up Please"
"ok forget price tags, if you could have sturridge or carrol, I choose sturridge every day of the week, so now compare price tags, Sturridge looks like a bargain... he is a very very good player and WILL have you doubters eating your words! also I through comparisons FSG trust BR with cash more than the last regime..."
"Lonewar- what is this current style exactly? I saw it first few games, and see it les, and less, and less. We have a defence that can't even defend f f s. I liken Allen to spearing in relation to zero assists, zero goals. Better spending the 15 million on Sturridge in August instead if the crab Allen. Honestly, for 2 months he's been dreadful. Style? There is none."
"The sad truth about ffp, is that it will fast-track the formation of the superleague, so we can be ffp pl champs, while man city,chelsea and united will be busy playing barca, real , psg, juve, bayern and the milan teams in a league of their own and sticking two fingers up at platini. Will feel. Bit hollow."
"Buddha- apologies if taken wrongly. Just frustrated with fans claiming Allen, Borini, and Pep Rodgers are the answer- when its evident they aren't. Right Buddha et al. I'm gonna back BR to the hilt til season end and we'll see where we are at. That's me done- family wedding to go to."
"Imagine if we never bought Carrol, and KD played kuyt with Saurez, and maxi on the wing in the kuyt position, then in the summer, bought players like ba or hazard/mate with the money spare... KD might still be here... and we certainly would not be in the position we are in... FACT"
"There will probably be about 20 million to spend and that wouldnt buy falco's left foot.Personally i will judge FSG on what they 'invest' in the summer."
"And I won't be posting again until season end. That's me done cos as when others were ranting last season- I realise how boring it is to read. Adios. YNWA."
"Well, I guess we will have to see where we are in May. Rodgers will stand or fall with the results that we achieve. At the moment it is not good enough and there has been little progress. His signings have been poor. I want Rodgers to be successful but I don't believe he is the right man for our club. I am just so sick of the BS that he spouts. Top 6 would be great!"
"gt_-lfc i couldn't agree more ! balancing the books hence the reason were not splashing the cash ! i wish everybody would just get behind the team and stop the negativity this was always goin to be a topsy turvy season .Judge it all next season ...its called progression .YNWA "
"To all slating FSG, without them, Liverpool would not exisit! We would ve been in administration. They spent 100m that went down the drain! Do you really think they will not be reserved with spending. Sacking BR will bring no effect, the team need stability especially with the youngsters growing into the team. Back the team!"
"agree with a lot brendan says but to have the right ingredients we need the right people to buy them and upto now FSG have let brendan down big time so its about time to go shopping for the right ingredients we need caviar not bread and water !!!!!!"
"Sorry but the team wot BR has got isn't a bad team, it's better than Stoke, west brom, Everton and Swansea I also think it's better than Arsenal. I think if BR didn't try to implement his style of play and play the same system against everyone we play we'd be higher up the league table Fact! You can't just play the same way against everyone, teams no how to set up against us and beat us now. YNWA"
"Shaun, other offers were on the table. We would never have gone into administration. Broughton sold us out to the lowest bidder.FSG spent 35 M net of LFCs own money on transfers last year . They have never spent a cent of their own money on this club, not one. That's a fact. "
"Gerrard o ya beauty- spot on.... We have no element of surprise, which is a fundemental tactic in battle. BR's self belief will be our self destruction."
"just think, if we got sturridge, demspey, and gylfi like Br wanted too surely we would be higher up the table, but as always spurs seem to pinch our targets and Br was only going to pay for what a player is worth, so lets once he has a proper transfer window, ie next summer!!"
"Wish posters would read the article before posting:
"This is a different era, a different operation in terms of where the club is at. Because we don't have the big finances to go and splash out like a lot of other clubs, it's going to be a process that takes us back there, rather than something instant.""
"RedKK.... Also spot on.... FSG probably offered broughton the biggest brown envelope for the low price their british american tobacco fraternity handshake buddy negotiated with them. "
"I am sure my comment will be buried ast the tirade but feel the need to post (something I rarely do).
Many of you are probably ST holders, many not. Some know the history back to the beginning, others I feel forget the club existed before 1970s and 80s..."
"I accepted in playing terms we were back to when Shankly first took over when BR came in the summer and would need a similar rebuild. Yes defeats like Villa and Stoke annoy me but let me tell you it ain't gonna turn round in 1 or 2 years. It will test your patience and loyalty but I'm up for it, are you?"
""PL have proposed new regs that would see members adhering to rules in-keeping with FFP rules imposed by UEFA. UEFA rules came into effect at the start of this season as did the FL's regs - with authorities looking to ban clubs that operate at a loss. PL are hoping to implement a sim set of guidelines, with the 3 principal proposals to be voted on : FFP, Contract Guarantees and Wage Restraints."
"Kingmat- BR has got to change his tactics sometimes, I can understand he wants us to play his way, but you can't play the same all the time, stoke away is a totally different game to Fulham at home yet he didn't change the team or system. It's cost us a lot of points this season."
"to Vladslovechild!!!! WELL SAID, also to championsofeurope, many posters on here need a reality check as to where we are after the last regime and how much damage was done, I am here for the journey!"
"Lonewar69 - its going to be a long & interesting journey, but a journey with which I will follow with my beloved LFC (whichever league we're in). Never has it been so important for LFC to have the 12 man on the field with them. I just hope all these -ve posters are a minority."
"ye me too, I have been screaming out for the 12th man to be there for this project, lets buy into it, and Understand some will have caution after a legend like daglish had been replaced with an untested but visionary coach, that is going to cause friction, but I will support BR all the way but also with realism!"
"We have some of the strangest fans. £80m was misspent last year 2011. Only 2 of those players play regularly, the rest where to be shipped out.
The squad is having to rely on young players because of last season.
Still, we have Sterling instead of Downing. We can have a midfield of Allen/Shahin/Henderson instead of Adam and Spearing.
"
"Lonewar69 - its painful for all LFC fans to see where we are as a club right now, but what's more painful is listening to our fans turning into Blackburn fans. When a manager & the players ask for patience, some people see that as 'you get 6 months, or less, in many cases'."
"Well he said what I expected him to say. Supporters are great ,blah blah. We will push on blah blah, no money ,blah blah , owners are brilliant blah blah. Yet in other places he is saying players with no courage and sloppy atudes can go. Does this man REALLY have a clue?"
"Though Borini hasn't done much yet, he shows better long term signs than Carroll and costs £24m less.
It will take atleast this season to steady the squad, then add quality additions in the summer.
I understand the frustration but some comments show little understanding of Liverpool's 110+ year history."
"I am happy to give this project time, the biggest sign for me so far for me is that all the players are signing new contracts with us, that to me says they like what rogers is doing otherwise they would all be running the contract down like what happens at arsenal!"
"all the players that Br has bought are potential, but this gives the values the exponential possibility to grow, where in the past we severely overpaid for average players that could only depreciate.... hence why we need to balance the books a bit!"
"When players like Suarez, Agger and Sterling, who were all being courted by the biggest European clubs, sign new long term contracts with LFC, it's got to show they are pleased with the progress being made & that they have bought in to the steady progress to be made."
"ChampionsOfEurope - How many times do you see players sign new contracts to make more money but only to leave one year later. These contracts have nothing to do with players seeing us make progression. "
"The problem with Liverpool is the transfers. You might sign 1 good player but you then sign 3 or 4 bad players. This has been the downfall for LFC for over 5 years. Forget January, the right signings need to be made during the summer and before the season starts!!! I still question the Borini and Allen signings..."
"Just watched the Spurs game and knew they would get something out of the game. 2 attacking wingers, 2 good strikers, enough needed for the 3 points. An easy £50 profit made :) United do the same thing. Liverpool are miles behind. We will be lucky to get top 5 this year. "
"Contracts are seen has, how much more money can I get. Contracts are only worth something if your team is mega rich and tell the player no you can not leave. But how many times has that happened in the past ten years, once the Tevez affair."
"lpdcollier - if that's your philosophy, then why sign contracts with LFC when they could sign more lucrative contacts with their courters. Why not just congratulate the players for sticking with us, however long it may be, they could more easily have just left!"
"ChampionsOfEurope - It's the way football is in this day and age. No top teams would want to pick up any of our players (Suarez would be the only exception). Save this comment, because Suarez will leave in the summer."
"BuddhaBuddha13 - I love the way you dismiss other posts, because they do not align with what you believe is gospel. Tomkins, I stopped listening to his posts long ago, he may be the blindest LFC fan I have ever come across. So please ask me this, is this where you got you facts from? Or are you LFC's accountant? "
"Football changed with the big money; but it is changing again with the financial fair play rules. I hope it will bring us back into contention, but I support BR because he is trying to rebuild our club which will take time. Just like Bill Shankly BR is about finding the right players to fit the club. If you want a club that spends big then change your team. Read Shanklyâ"
"ChampionsOfEurope - Buddha: I love your guys positivity and optimism. But in the real world players will leave if we are not showing ambition and progression, and we are not showing either. I was a tad hasty in my valuation in certain players only signing for money, you are right certain players support the club and love the fans and they will never leave. No matter tough it gets."
""castigate players like Sterling and Suarez" Hey Buddha, I love both these guys. My problem is Suarez has always stated he would like to play in Spain at some point. So the likely hood is if we were constantly successful he would not leave, but unsuccessful he will leave., sooner rather than later. Just look at Gerrard Liverpool thru and thru, we almost lost him twice."
"As for sterling, He thought a better club would come in for him and offer him more money. This was the main reason for him stalling. There were rumors of other clubs interested but nothing concrete."
"lpdcollier - whether LFC are showing ambition and progression is a matter of opinion which is clearly dividing the fans (judging by the polar comments on here). Just as other managers have had the opportunity (bar Woy, but he was awful), BR also deserves his chance as do the players who have showed faith."
"I agree with bits of Buddha and Rushjob. I think FSG have gone about things in the correct way as far as cutting costs etc. I just think BR is too much of a glove puppet and therefore is too weak for the job. I domnt want him to get sacked, he should still have time so long as we see progress from last season.At the moment I see 5 steps back and 1 forward. "
"lpdcollier - I too am well versed in the football of this day & age, but am also realistic in knowing where my team are in the footballing world & am also too aware of how difficult the PL is for a team building a new team & philosophy with an inherited failing team."
"I have every right to moan, when I drive 4 hours up to Liverpool every other week to support my team. Figure in petrol, ticket, food and normally gear I will buy from the LFC shop. I am contributing as much as any supporter. I will support Liverpool through thick and thin, I just believe we deserve more than a Championship manager, who has no plan B"
"ChampionsOfEurope - What made Woy any worse than BR? I think BR has a worse record than Woy. BR also spent more money on transfers than Woy. Woy took over a very unstable team with no cash really to spend. Did you support him to? "
"lpdcollier - totally agree with you, all fans have a right to moan when things are going disasterously wrong (i.e. Blackburn), but we're in 10th with a threadbare team, a new inexperienced manager who inherited some shocking signings. If I recall correctly, he got rid of Poulsen & Konchesky too."
"lpdcollier - I support every manager of LFC, that's what we're supposed to do, because I'm not the one bearing the burden of such a massive job. Woy must have been good, but not all managers fit all clubs. Maybe BR doesn't fit LFC, but I'd like to give him a chance. And PS, its not all about spending to be a good/bad manager."
"ChampionsOfEurope - I guess we will all see things differently, thats what makes football so subjective. One last thing though, the reason I can come across very negative is this is not what was promised to us. We were promised not only by the board but the manager too, we would be competing with the cream of the crop that has not happened. Cont"
"If before the season FSG had outlined to us fans that we will no longer be competing like the top teams for top players, and we have to work to a shoe string budget. I would have accepted that and not of been expecting to much, and where we lay in the league now would probably of been barely acceptable."
"Here we go. Buddha on one again. It is all a big game to Buddha, he loves the attention, he seeks and revels in all the confrontat-ion, often ignoring facts and evading questions put directly to him. He heaps credablity on posters who share his views, yet dismissing the intellect of those who don't... #judgebuddha"
"lpdcollier - we certainly were promised that we would be competing with the cream of the crop, but at what timescale. I don't recall anyone in charge saying we'd be doing this in the first 6 months. These polar debates will rage forever, but I feel LFC need that 12th man right now; just IMHO."
"ChampionsOfEurope - I agree with you. I support LFC, so to me that means the eleven players and manager marshaling the team. Even if I do not agree with everything. "
"lpdcollier - nicely put, I too don't agree with everything BR does, but I'm also not in the privilaged position of being within the four walls of Anfield to know the worts & all of LFC right now."
"lpdcollier - its been good discussing things with you without having to resort to childish mud slinging. These debates are great for the club, but it pains me to see fans at each others throats on here. YNWA my friend."
"Buddha old bean. We can all change opinions. What you said to Rushjob was insulting. Also suggesting he has to play to the silly rules that you feel we have to adhere to. (You are in one camp or another)... No, we and I guess all other posters on here want whats best for LFC. "
"Buddha old bean. We can all change opinions. What you said to Rushjob was insulting. Also suggesting he has to play to the silly rules that you feel we have to adhere to. (You are in one camp or another)... No, we and I guess all other posters on here want whats best for LFC. "
"Changing opinion on the manager/owners does not make you a schizophrenic (as what you have insultingly told people who have changed opinions before) or keyboard warrior (as what you called Rushjob earlier). Jeez, you are so insulting and patronising to other people on these boards. "
"It's not a game to us, being proved right or wrong. You are such an egomaniac you care more about being proved right than LFC winning. Football is the game, not being proved right and gaining credability on these boards... "
"graed - & Villa are 3-0 down to Wigan. That's the beauty of the PL, any team can beat anyone on their day. Stunned we couldn't beat Villa that day though."
"What some need to understand is in order to adhere to the financial fair we can't rely on the owners splashing the cash it's most likely they have the money you just have to look and the red sox but the club has to be self sufficient we haven't the champions league money coming in at present so we haven't the finance of clubs like utd or chelsea "
"ChampionsOfEurope - Although I agree with you, on their day anyone can beat anyone.. I can't help but feel embarrassed. I mean come on we lost 3-1 at Anfield to Villa who have now shipped in 15 goals in 3 games. That is very poor on our behalf no ,matter how you look at it "
"timH - don't disagree with you at all, its been a very embarassing season for all LFC fans, but I have had to accept we are now a mid-table team with amazing prospects to rise. The PL is just like the jungle, a wounded animal is easy prey & all those playing us work extra hard to beat us."
"AC30....finally someone who speaks my language. FSG have chosen the same path as the Glazers have with ManU...nearly 1billion in debt.
Whilst I sit by waiting patiently for ol red nose to go and watch the demise of them, I am afraid that we could follow suit unless some rich scouser/s take over our beloved LFC.
We need owners with big hearts.....not big wallets....think about it."
"ANI. NEED TO CORRECT YOU, Buddha never called rushjob a keyboard warrior, in fact he complemented him on his opinion and intellect.... and welcomed his opinion... at the moment fans are split on how are future progress should commence. splash the cash and hope or try and build slowly and carefully, I am of the latter..."
"ChampionsofEurope. Love that anecdote. I just hope our sloath gets better soon as there are many tigers in pretty good shape that are getting hungry."
"ChampionsOfEurope - Yeah I've had to accept over the last month or so that we are probably mid table. Not just the fact that we are possibly worse off, but teams like Everton have really strengthen their starting 11. I only take comfort that Newcastle are doing so poorly as last season their starting 11, barring their defence, was possibly better than ours"
"redahendo - ha ha, well continued with the anecdote. One thing I forgot to say though, a wounded animal can also be at its most dangerous - hope we can pursue that part of the anecdote..."
"timH - again, fully behind your comment. One thing to consider though re: EFC, their manager has been in place for years, slowly building the philosophy & strength of the team on a meagre budget, sound like deja vu??"
"See the egotist is at it again- "Waiting for me to appear" he claims. Mate, I don't spend all day on the website and I haven't conversed with you for a good while. Not even going to go there with drunken rants as that is a repet-itive accusation you throw at me yet have no substance other than a one drunken rant weeks ago. "
"Bit boring now mate trying to make me out as the her Jack Hackett of these boards. I couldn't care less about being proved wrong. I wan't best for LFC sunshine. You just crave confronation- Think most people in your situation use lonely hearts. Try it sweety x"
"All I am saying Buddha is that you have been accused of being a bully by a few posters. I have stayed away as you angered me so much. Rushjob has had enough of you. All you do is use these boards to wind people up. Just don't understand as these people support the same team as you alledge to support.I'm out. "
"Nothing tickles me more than seeing a verbal exchange between Ani and Buddha. LFC.com could sell tickets for this event. Next time though give us some warning so we can go and get the popcorn."
"Ani and Buddha, you guys need to get a room & just s-e-x it out. You both clearly love our LFC, but some perspective guys, its just a game that allows us to escape from life for a bit. Harmony off the pitch will breed harmony on it."
"Thanks Champions of Europe, can't get that image out of my head. Might have to go and talk to the club shrink.I bet Ani would wear the trousers though!"
"Team is improving tho the table is not showing much. Chances created is one thing but finishing is another. Any manager can infuse ideas but still the players have to work and show them on the pitch. I honestly think any quality players coming in Jan can make a difference. Just have to wait and see. Don't let the window come and go. PLEASE FSG!!"
"Totally agree with Lonewar69. BR inherited a team that is downright incompetent. Players are old and slow. Not playing anything creative nor exciting. I am happy that we got the Carling Cup but honestly I was surprised we did. I alwaysand still love KK but his team is not top 4 calibre...."
"BR has his vision and sticking with it. I love the fact he is playing our youngbloods. Still he got too many deadwood from KK to re-organise the club. If he didn't change any players from KK, we will be at the bottom of the table for sure...."
"Balancing the book should always be the club priority. We don't have an owner that can leave a blank check for the manager to use. The Liverpool Way is building from within. That's how to balance the book from the start. When we have so many young talents that's rebuilding the club. I believe in BR and understand success don't come overnight. "
"dayfjackal - never a truer word spoken my friend. The billionaire sheik & russian sponsored teams will not be able to spend as thay have very soon. If the books don't balance the team is banned. I'd rather get back to the top via grit, determination & skill than buying the le for one season - that's a laughing stock."
"The sheiks, russians or any billionaires just toying with their money. Money means nothing to them. Owning a club is like playing train sets to them. Once they got tired of them they just change everything. These teams have no character nor rich history like LFC."
"Bring players that will make a real difference. Not a Chelsea bench warmer. If we are to progress, you need to change your transfer policy; which goes after english flops only!!!"
"Ani road totally agree with the #judgebuddha remark. Here's 1 fact no one can argue with we are in a worse position than we were this time last season. Anything less than a win tomorrow and certain people will be supporting our least successfull manager since the the 60's. don't get me wrong I would love Borini and Allen Assaidi cont"
"BR's signings havent done much yet i wonder where we would be in table if he just spent all the money on one top striker thats all we were lacking before he came in."
"To prove me wrong and become world beaters but they will not neither will Sturridge or Ince. We could fast be like Newcastle if we slip further off the pace it's a big risk. If we do not continue to draw a worldwide fan base we could end up the same. Last season I felt we had balance of youth and experience with sterling and Suso still to come. Cont "
"Now BR has completely destroyed any belief some players had de valuing them and de motivating them. Surely it would be a wiser man manager who got the best from those players only to move them on for less loss if they did not fit now Carroll Downing are worth less than they could be. And we have less money to invest. Poor management. "
"FSG made a mistake getting rid of dalglish,he needed more time to build on last season.To make things worse they didnt back BR in the summer transfer market.Dont really think sturridge & ince will turn our season round!!"
"I don't understand how the game before we had a flawless game. The next game we look like a fish out of water. We have a good team. We only need two good players one wide man and a midfielder. Then Coates needs to play skrtel needs to be on the bench. Money will not solve the problem. How I miss Rafa"
"Most fans make me laugh, we lost to Stoke because we lacked match winners. We cannot rely on Suarez and Gerrard every game! Sturridge will help and so will Ince but for us to compete for top 5 even, we need at least 4 match winners in our starting 11! "
"Arsenal thumping Newcastle in a very entertaining game and would you look at that, all players I mentioned are on the score sheet. Point proven AMEN!!! "
"compo84 - I'm over the moon that Dalglish got sacked, he only looked good when we first appointed him in January and we had a strong finish in the 2nd half of the season. He was clueless for the entire season after and made shocking signings and supported Suarez through the racism row..."
"compo84 - He would have been sacked even if Liverpool won the FA Cup. 35M Carroll, 16M Henderson and 20M Downing, enough said, nobody wants him now! "
"The big difference is I come on these boards from time to time to debate and disucss the best things for LFC. Buddha craves the attention and likes to atagonise. Ever so often I will react, refrained recently to prevent a sideshow... "
"Never see me argue or get agitated with anyone else just the same old person. Well done dear Buddha, your mission is successful. P.S. Where did you sit for the FA Cup Final? With your chav mates in Chelski end. #turncoat "
"Football philosophy rule No1: Great managers get great performances from average players while average managers get average performances from great players. What qualities make a great manager? It's not about transfers or money or blame or excuses. See rule No 1"
"redbastion - nice piece my friend. One thing to add though, a great manager is given time to be great, at the time of their appointment they are just a manager. No manager instantly turns an average side into a world beater in 6 months. IMHO."
"We had enough money to improve the squad unfortunately Brendan gave most of it to his good friend at Swansea and now we have to play a rubbish player to save his face.The rest he has wasted on the Borini deal etc and now he's set to waste more on unsuitable players.Badly run club."
"redbastion - Harry Redknapp is a great manager but where are QPR? Your philosophy makes no sense especially if someone like Woy was to manage Barca, not that it's ever going to happen. "
"spend more money.........buy better players..........stop buying average players..............drop this player.........drop that player...........really it's that easy i'm surprised you lot haven't got the managers job."
"Luis7?9 - with the utmost respect, Redknapp has been in charge at QPR for about 4 games & got them their first win of the season. Surely that merits redbastion's comments somewhat?"
"Really getting sick and tired of theses stupid comments. Get real people. We all need time to get things back and hopefully we will. I know we want success, but please please remember things do take time. So all these people posting immediate changes needed shut the **** up and get behind our team. YNWA "
"This comments section is turning into a job section,with everyone leaving their CV's.LOL. We have bank managers,accountants,comedians and if that's not enough we have drag queens.LOL. What's really required is a psychiatrist HELLLLLP! "
"ChampionsOfEurope - That's 1 win in 6 games actually. Not a good record so far by his standards. You can't complain with the squad he has got either since they have got some talented players. "
"Luis7?9 - your reply comment is exactly the point I was making good sir. 6 games (even though I said about 4) is nowhere near enough for him to show whether he's a great manager or not. No idea what point you're trying to make??"
"one day the king will return, thats not if fsg have ripped his heart and soul out, look what steve clarke is achieving he was our coach, fsg you have made the biggest mistake you could have done. no one is bigger than lfc only the king himself, he is lfc.
i like br but my heart yearns for king kenny.
ynwa"
"Are the American owners using Liverpool just to display their Warrior logo and why the hell on this planet are they not throwing good money at BR...Hope we haven't got another TWO CLOWNS!"
"Not good enough since rafa left our transfer dealings have been poor, Hodgson kenny n Rodgers have persisted with buying second rate British plyrs at highly inflated prices clearly the scouting network has no idea of the European market we have had the money but so far all three British managers have wasted it that's where we have gone wrong poor choice of player "
"Well said BR, I believe what u r trying to achieve with a depleted squad carrying unwanted deadwood. u can only work with what u have got hopefully certain fans can niece Kay off and start acting like genuine true lfc supporters. if they really r that is. "
"Since 1992 our net spend on transfer dealings is higher than uniteds so clearly all managers from souness to Rodgers have had the money all bar rafa n maybe houllier to a lesser extent have wasted money we need a proper scouting network we spend 15m on Allen arsenal spend 9m on cozola we have had the money but blew it time for a proper scouting network "
"Rodgers record is no better than kk in the transfer market barini not up to mark Allen 15m for a guy who passes it sideways no pace is he any better than spearing or Hendo too much reliant on British players we have no pace in the team , too many sideways passing we lack the cutting and yet again we spending big on the wrong plyr I'm sturridge we Shud have got Walcott "
"KK will always be a legend! He is or was not the right choice to return LFC into a new era of success. IMAO. I'm as frustrated as many other fellow Reds. We have to stick by both FSG and BR for the rest of this season and the following season. "
"I think we are going to get more players in than just sturridge, so let's wait till the end of January b4 we start shouting at BR and FSG. I think we need Demba Ba and maybe another and were good to go. YNWA"
"hey 5starkop. I have to agree with your in regards to transfers, we have been terrible with transfers over the last 20 years, wasted so much money, our scouting team has got to be some of the reason why our club is struggling......"
"ChampionsOfEurope - Let's see if the mighty QPR stay up this season. And out of your list of names, how much profit has been made... Torres sold for 50M, Alonso sold for 30M and I believe Mascherano sold for around 18M. "
"A lot of passion here. At the core we want the same thing. Lets be honest, our problems were never going to be solved over night, it will take years. Some of the players mentioned would not come even if we had the money as we are not in the PL. We will get there. Look where Fergie would have been if he was given the same amount of time as some people want to give BR. Our time will come again."
""LFC is too big a club to risk having rookies in all power positions. Ayre, FSG & BR all have no experience in their positions at a big club". Paul Dalglish tweet tonight and an opinion shared by the majority of fans. Defeat tomorrow and the nosies will get louder at our next home game against Sunderland. "
"defeat tomorow will spell diaster for management and all involved, cant even contemplate loosing.
the kop will start chanting who they want, but i'm not sure who?
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"I see a recurring pattern with these message boards. Match day and the real fans come out and comment. Once the anger has died down and fans make their points you get your attention seekers writing crap and trying to proclaim that the majority of fans haven't got a scooby doo! "
"They know they would get torn apart post match (more so after what can only be decribed as a disastrous season so far) so they wait and then spend the rest of the week talking nonsense. This isn't a site for football most of the time, it's a site for lonely sad cyber space people to interact. "
"Oh Buddha, Got your card marked sunshine. Know all about your private direct messages to someone I have had teh plasure of meeting for a beer before the match. You see some of us aren't make believe charactors hiding behind the keyboards, some of us go to the game and interact with fellow posters. "
"Loved the Direct Message showing your dismay at how another poster gets all the attention on here. Mate you are a big child who just happens to have an extensive vocabularly and I guess a quick wit but let yourself down with your childish insistence on getting your way. Know about you in the Chelsea end tut tut! "
"I am tired at the equation $$ equal success. It doesn't work in Real Madrid this year, City is faltering QPR is certainly money gone with the wind, Chelsea spent more, but were unsuccessful (How they won the champion league I can not figure out-luck?) So far Chelsea $80M dollar acquisition paid back little if any, Carroll 35M pound? Money is everything? "
"I would say money can be used to buy great players if we have a good-eye scouters.
Carrol puchase was a mistake, but who wouldn't know he s such a flob. Being with New Castle, he performed so so well, and at that point, Liverpool must buy him.
I still wish KK was still a coach for another season."
""At key moments of the game our mentality wasn't there." So what are you going to do about it? Everybody has been brilliant but middle of the table is far from brilliant. For starters stop saying "the group" has been brilliant, it is just not true unfortunately. "
"Luis7?9 - regarding QPR staying up, unlikely, again what's your point??
Re: Rafa spending:
Total Players Bought: £228,976,000
Total Players Sold: £145,100,000
Total Net Spend: -£83,876,000"
"All I can say as I Sit here (in drag) in my padded cell,filled with photos of KK and Hendo is that if we are not level on points with Swansea tomorrow night I shall make an effigy of BR out of papier-mache (from the Hendo and KK posters of course) and bury him in the garden."
"oh if paul daglish says... then we should listen... has got a personal agenda by chance.... OMG,get over it KD got sacked and rightly so,end of, crippled the club"
"Most if rafas buys were less than 5m n not his first choice I think if rafa had 120mill to spend he wud have got us mata silva villa not downing Hendo n carall rafa only major flop was aqualanin Keane!! reina agger skrtel sterling suso Johnson jonjo the better reds plyrs still happen to be rafa signings he had very limited funds n half the plyrs refs til
I die mentioned cost less than 5m "
"5starkop. Rafa was ok but he had one of the best midfielders and centre backs on form during his reign. The backbone of the team was already assembled. "
"The point is since kk n Rodgers have come on the scene we have blown big money on average plyrs what has Allen brought to the team, the man has no pace no penetration compare him to dembelle carzolo no contest the point is we have to be smarter with how we spend our money follow Evertons example And unearth little gems "
"We Shud gave targeted Walcott n baa not sturridge our bet spend since 1992 is more than uniteds net spend do let's not blame FSG for la knife investment maybe we Shud look at the scouting we needed a striker n Rodgers blew his budget on Allen did we really need Allen if we don't get 4th how long will surez stay for Rodgers deserves time but anything less than top 6 than it wud be failure"
"Assessment: BR
Task Given for this Year in the order of priority:
1) Balancing the Books 2) Get rid of players not performing and hire players who can offer a great future.
3) Stop the steep downfall in the table
Cntd..."
"Champions of Europe you forget rafa continuously got us into the top 4 remember 2005 n 2007 finals we were feared in europe in half of the plyrs u mentioned were 5 m
Or less n we made our money on them or broke even when we sold them
On, rick parry cost rafa do many big name stars like vidic silva Alves n rafa never had the luxury of spending 15-35 mill on one plyr "
"Task1 result: Good
Freed up a lot of wages bill, wasted a bit of money on sahin, and joe cole but that was unavoidable given the situation. in any case Joe cole will be departing and I guess riena may leave too freeing up more wages.
contd..
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"Rodgers goes deserve more time cuz we can't keep sacking managers but he needs to be more cuter in the transfer window look to the global market and also implement a plan B it's ok having 65 % of possession but we need cutting edge lets mix it up abit n a few less sideways passes n a few more Cutting edge passes we need to get. 4th soon or surez like Torres will go "
"Task2 result: Poor. Our team still overly dependent on Gerard, Lucas, and Suarez. None of the Shelvey, Handerson, Allen, Sterling, Kelly, Assadi have been developed properly to be able to promise a decent future. Gerard is getting older with no replacement in sight."
"Task 3: extremely Poor. when kyut, maxi, Bellamy, adams (3 attackers 1 defender) left rodgers had option to recruite players and he choose to put assadi, sahin, allen, borini, cole (recalled from loan). "
"None of his choice of players could deliver any result. We are at even worse position the last season. and we are praying that jan signing should work else top 10 will be a difficult task forget about top 4. Poor Poor from rodgers. We should give him this season and see how his Jan signing works and if don't improve our position in table over last season he should be sacked."
"Its not the must winning always.Its how we loose.If we loose after good fight i dont care,but if professional players aint give a hell in a field with heart and loose without fight,there is something wrong."
"Would have been nice if Brendan had an experienced head in his team and I for one did not want to see Steve Clarke leave. Kenny started getting results with him and we became strong defensively again."
"I will also say about our regime that we have the crapppest scouting system. Not just now, it has been this way for the last few years and I dont understand why?? I also think our business aen is poor and Ian Ayre isnt the right Director, he should stand down and go back to Marketing Director as that is clearly what he is good at."
"Also 5STARKOP you are spot on using the comparisons of Dembele and Allen. Why we were'nt in for Dembs is beyond me and shows how limited the businessmen s way of thinking is at our club. On the other hand compare ability and price with Carroll and Sturridge and everyne on here should just leave Sturridge alone. He wasnt close to my first choice but on the Carroll thing...yes please!"
"Just cause you have the money doesn't mean you buy. Walcott is after money, so is he worth chasing. Some say no, some are wrong. Even if it's hopeless. YNWA "
"losing the faith, he is too nice need the ruthless streak like Fergie. He accepted we needed to lose 9 players in the summer to off load 23 million off wage bill and then bring in no strikers. Suspect it will be the same in January an asset strip job"
"I think we should get to the summer then look at some real targets and move a few players on we are a work in progress and although it kills me wen we lose I'm willing give BR a chance to put it right just hope it's not another reading senecio YNWA"
"Stop counting your chicks before they're hatched. Same way you talked about how 2 home wins can reduce the 5points difference from then 3rd place, now how many points from third position?
Get us results not speeches...YNWA!"
"OnSide 30th Dec 2012 1:54 - Liverpool will never be dependant on Lucas as he brings nothing to this club. He is a poor CDM. He does not have that physical presence. He is a player that nobody would fear. Mascherano has been our best CDM. Look who Chelsea have had in the past, Makelele, Geremi, Essien and now Mikel. All solid! "
"We will not be able to compete with the likes of the top sides while we're 'a couple of cheques short'! So, with that in mind, expect a player or two/? to move on to a 'contender' at some point. Suarez for example???"
"Crap.Lucas got eye and talent to be where he should to be in field with mental.He never give up and he is totally smarter player than Mascherano.And when he is good shape again after his injury you will see it.Lucas one of the MAN on pitch."
"powderfinger2712 - I take it you did not watch the game today then. We had Allen and Henderson holding the midfield, not everyones first choice but we kept a clean sheet. What happened when Lucas came on, he gave away silly free kickes and got booked. Poor player and always will be! "
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29th Dec 2012 9:34