Consistency is one thing I wish Liverpool would implement this season and will use it wisely later on in every game. Untill then keep working hard guys. Move on to QPR, YNWA!
"Just how many games like this one will it take for BR to realize that we need Andy Carroll? First penalty of the season, awarded by none other than Howard Webb, unfortunately accompanied by the worst performance in terms of passing and defending."
"Seriously... I keep believing but sometimes pffff.. BR u better not come up with some bulls*** about luck and other bla bla bla.. start getting your tactics spot on and then speak abt luck.. we were really poor today!! and please get WORLD CLASS players in transfer window.. not average one
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"A fantastic chanse with first pen of season, and a early lead... then we throw it away with rubbish defence... felt we were afraid to hold ball, this in a game when its most important to dare to hold it... "
"shocking performance by Liverpool... bullied by Stoke, second best in every department, and along with the Villa game, is this really the future of the club??"
""All I can say is 19 GAMES, 6 WINS AND GOAL DIFFERENCE OF 2. Get real. Liverpool needs a REAL manager and ambitious owners. We will NEVER EVER get into the top four with BR in charge and the average players that are being brought in.""
"Extremely frustrated by the lack of consistancy in this club. Luis and Enrique great effort today, the rest of the squad did not cut it. Why is Assaidi not getting a run out? Doesnt make any sense"
"Two disappointing things today: 1. We couldn't hold on to a lead, and 2. We knew Stoke was going to play the way they did, but we shamefully didn't have answers for them."
""All I can say is 19 GAMES, 6 WINS AND GOAL DIFFERENCE OF 2. Get real. Liverpool needs a REAL manager and ambitious owners. We will NEVER EVER get into the top four with BR in charge and the average players that are being brought in.""
""FSG really need to let us fans know what there plan is for LFC. Because if it is bottom half finishes from now on, we can brace ourselves for mediocrity. If they still believe we can compete, than employ a Manager with the right credentials and actually start putting some decent money in for transfers, and not money we recoup on selling players.""
"Dalglish !!!! An absolute joke we are where we deserve to be in the league and it is not acceptable forget philosophies and all that just buy good hungry players and WIN. We were much better under Dalglish DISGUSTED"
"same story as the game against villa, tactically we need a more variation 2 cope with the whole pitch press, defenders noe we r gonna aim 4 suarez, n tat he is gonna try nutmeg them, so its 2 easy 2 defend. starting with suso was def a bad decision, he is 2 light weight, should hav had hendo on the wing. "
"What a poor performance guys :) lets admit it, were just an midtable team at the moment, nothing else. Need badly an goalscorer and some stability in our defence!!"
"Better bring in real players when the transfer window opens and not the likes of Sturridge cos this will be our weekly story for years to come.... Get serious for goodness sake !!!!!! This aint the Liverpool way :/"
"Outplayed, and it could have been worse. I know it's about the long game, but shouldn't we be seeing some progress by now? Awful...and a Chelsea reject heading our way."
"I missed the first half, but what I saw in the second, I wouldn't like to blame the team for the result. Stoke taught us a lesson in how to be successful on a budget; big men up front, big men in the middle, and you guessed it, big men at the back. Bull baffles brains, and Mr. Webb, being a complete meat-head himself, seems to be a special fan of Stoke's type of play."
"again no fight in this team .BR when r u going to admit ur are not experienced for this level , ur a mid table manager at most , please go u are all word no substasnce if so justify ur signings , which one has come good ?????"
"We're better than that. FSG need to get their money out and bring some players in. We're halfway through the season and we haven't surpassed 8th yet. Come on Redmen. "
"Short of quality in midfield and lacking a bit of desire. These type of games are becoming a bit too repeive I'm afraid.
Henderson for Lucas? What's that all about - Hendo still can't tackle, and the centre backs were bullied all game."
"again no fight in this team .BR when r u going to admit ur are not experienced for this level , ur a mid table manager at most , please go u are all word no substasnce if so justify ur signings , which one has come good ?????"
"How much more of this must we endure? We are making average teams look like world beaters. The defence that was solid last season is now shambolic. 9 points less than at this stage last season and whatever the media would have us believe the football is so much worse! Oh well, at least we've got the arrival of Daniel Sturridge to look forward to. "
"WE ARE PL CLOWNS!!! I was behind BR until now but what we`ve shown tonight was A DISGRACE!!! I earn 450e a week and pay membership and buy merchandises - that`s it!!! Boycott until players prove they are deserve their wages!!!"
"again no fight in this team .BR when r u going to admit ur are not experienced for this level , ur a mid table manager at most , please go u are all word no substasnce if so justify ur signings , which one has come good ?????"
"again no fight in this team .BR when r u going to admit ur are not experienced for this level , ur a mid table manager at most , please go u are all word no substasnce if so justify ur signings , which one has come good ?????"
"Very poor Liverpool performance,Rodgers was the chief culprit, how can he keep the disastrous Shelvey for the whole 90mins and he subsuted our best 3 players of the first half, unbelievable, we have a very poor team and I cannot see us improve unless we get top players on board"
"tough game, the team fought all the game so really can't complain for lack of effort, Stoke deserves credit for their work ethic and they took their chances... analyse it, sort out couple of defensive errors and move on to get 3pts at QPR."
"Poor, poor, poor, poor, poor!
Outclassed and outplayed...by Stoke!
Rodgers must be so embarrassed; 2nd place? Really?
Aston Villa - beat us then lost to Chelsea and Tottenham. Stoke play Man City and Chelsea next week. Rodgers needs to watch to see how to do it.
We are short by at least 5 players. Poorest team in years."
"Reality dawns again!What was Shelvey doing on the pitch?Skertel is too prone to errors and cannot be a top class defender. The Physical strength of Stoke will only be tackled by technique!We lack quality in key areas. BR should work on the final 3rd of the pitch as that is our albatross!No real creativity and calm. We should be modest in our expectations as this team is not great! "
""That was utter garbage. Progress? You call that progress. One dimensional tippy tippy e. Out bullied as Aston Villa did. No tenacity, no urgency, no leaders. BR on a very slippery slope IMO. FSG can't keep conning us. 5 times champions of Europe being managed by a guy with less than 100 games as a manager (contd)""
"I guess with Brendan style, at least we can claim a moral victory, in that we tried to play the game. Unfortunately for us, whenever a Liverpool player put a tasty challenge in themselves, they were penalised for it. Never mind, keep going guys. You're on the right path."
"Another frustrating day at the office after a good win against Fulham. TBH I wasn't expecting anything better than a draw agains Wimbledon - I mean Stoke-today, and after a great start it just petered out. We really don't like playing against physical sides."
"What excuses do we get this time? "we played good football blalba" NOPE / "The players wanted to win blabla gave everything" NOPE / "I can't say a bad word about my team" YES you can Brendan. "
""Rookie FC. That's what we are. Lads 'learning their trade' in LFC's first team when they prob should be in the championship- Shelvey, Suso, Allen, Borini (when fit) and probably also sterling truth be known. FSG are having us off by giving us zero funds, and a manager who knows he's 'dropped on'. 'Exciting times' my ar5e. This is unacceptable BR, FSG.""
"KK downfall was he was stubborn, by picking players that did not warrant a first team place. But you can not doubt our defensive solidarity and our attacking displays which were good. Under BR I have not seen any of this, I think BR philosophy is to knock the ball around in our own half and then a lot of side passes, so we can improve our opta stats."
"I dont believe a word Rodgers says, talks utter rubbish and doesnt deliver, top 4 he said, your a liar Rodgers, shame on you building us up only to let us down with your poor philosophy, your the worst manager ive seen at liverpool in all my 37 years of supporting this club, disgraceful."
"Just some tactical awareness would have achieved a result. Playing Coates as part of a back three with Johnson and Enrique as wing backs would have nulled their arial threat and still provided the potency going forward. Shelvey gives us nothing in the role he is asked to play and suso is far more aware and sees a pass. "
"OMG! Just not good enough AGAIN! How can we go from a display against Fulham that produced 4 goals without reply to this. It saddens me to see how far Liverpool have fallen. No longer do I look towards games thinking we are going to win...rather "god, I hope we don't lose again". God help us"
"legendary-red: aye, lad, they will be on here in force again. Still doing ok, first season and we are within touching distance of something resembling success. I can't wait until BR gets the type of players in that fit his ideals, should be cracking :-)"
"To all the fans who heckled Roy Hodgson, and slating Kenny Dalglish- we are in a worse position now. And to all the people excusing BR having fallen for FSG's spin- have a word with yourselves. Cos this my friends is effing e. We are Liverpool, we are a massive club. We aren't Swansea, and we aren't a stupid 'rounders' team. Utter cr4p."
"Pathetic! This team couldn't win 3 games on the run in a million years, the most inconsistent liverpool team I have ever seen in my life! shelvey was rubbish today, I'd of took him off at half time. Liverpool will never win the league again I'm afraid to say, you can't attract any good player if your midtable, we're just history! The only trophy we'll ever win again is fa or capital1 "
"Really need a real centre back who can marshal the defense. Skrtel and Agger good at making tackles, but someone is needed to pull their strings. Prolific goal scorer sorely required. Very disappointed at team's inconsistency."
"I feel sad and downhearted after this defeat! We played a good first half but made some awful errors at the back, a second half awful! we put some effort, but ran as donkeys and missed chances upfront. We lack a soul, not players, and of this BR has to take note and remedy! We have to find the consistence of results. Let's hope to bounce back from this woe with QPR! YNWA "
"We need to do a lot of business in transfer market. I dont think we need english players, particularly in attacking role players, lets look for spanish or latin players. Look at city, chelsea, and man utd (top three of the league), just rooney, wellbeck, and ashley young in man utd. Therefore I dont think sturridge is the answer, he is an average player. "
"Poor defense one one end...lousy, non-commital passing on the other. No form whatsoever from one to the other. When we play we should never refer to a free ball as a 50-50 ball because our guys never try for them."
"Am sorry, we are now a mid-table side, all the subsutions played nothing, Suarez was too selfish at times, I think its about time BR knows that Sturridge is not the answer, he is not the kind a player we need, get Llorente for less than 12 mil, sell or release cole and Hendo."
"We've had an up & down (mostly down) season so far, won 4-0 last week, but from some of the comments today, you'd think we'd bought 6 world class players after last week's game & should have demolished Stoke. Why are people so surprised?"
"Absolute rubbish. One week brilliant, the next all lost. Cannot play light weight players like suso against a physical side like stoke. Lucky to finish in top half this year. No commitment from players...only Suarez showed commitment. Defence conceding too many goals. At this rate BR needs 10 yrs to build this team. FSG must invest or sell....same story like hicks/Gillette. "
"Here come they kenny crew get real he blew all our chances of getting back into the top4 spent 100mil on e apart from Suarez. Hodgsons target by the way. Destroying the owners confidence. Now we have Rodgers young inexperienced and having such little money to spend on any players. This club is in a dire state."
"Totally unacceptable but what could we expect? were used to being left down by now, I just wanna drown myself in liquer and forget about the last 2 hours of my life, should have went to a party instead of comming home and see this pile of crap. Best of luck in 2013 were gonna need it :-\"
"Reina want long rest or want go to Arsenal. It's time for Jones. 25 point for 19 PL games so enough for shows BR ability. With history 18 les and 5 european cups, thats why LFC need great manager with great record as manager and not a man just start to learn as manager. Good bye BR"
"The players are not good enough, the manager is arrogant and inept, and the owners only care how many replica shirts we sold in Thailand last week. We won't be selling many in future."
"I never expected us to beat Stoke in all honesty, I was hoping we could nick a draw. But after watching that game, I am shocked on how little fight we have in us, plus how blind BR is. The subs were baffling to say the least, how on earth did Shelvey stay on for 90 minutes."
"Brendan Rodgers has now been in charge for 31 games, the same number as Roy Hodgson. Their records are identical: won 13, drawn 9, lost 9. If those stats weren't good enough for Hodgson then they shouldn't be good enough for Rodgers."
"Another pathetic, gutless display, half hit passes,and poor performances,Neil Ruddock is right, we have no muscle, no Souness,or Smithy type player in our midfield, too soft against teams with tall strong players"
"People blindly backing FSG and BR do so at your peril. Cos you are backing rookies not competent to be running our club. Would you have Brian McDermott as manager? If not, why not. BR a media darling- hired for that ty TV show to showcase to the USA. Watch Gerrards body language. I trust Gerrard, and Gerrard knows....."
"I need to ask something, anybody can reply my question: If most of our fans want Brendan to be sacked, then why they dont chant like ''Brendan Out'' at the stadium? Why they dont represent their REAL emotions?"
"I need to ask something, anybody can reply my question: If most of our fans want Brendan to be sacked, then why they dont chant like ''Brendan Out'' at the stadium? Why they dont represent their REAL emotions?"
"BR pls no more talk of top 4 - u gonna talk yourself out of a job. We were soft in defense/weak going forward and shocking in midfield. You have no PLAN B wen da chips are down. I would go 3 at da back with Carra on Jones and defend the second ball- he murdered us in the air. Couldn't believe Shelvy came on second half. We were consistent today in our performance as a mid table team."
"FSG, get the cheque book out. Rodgers needs classy players with an educated first touch, ruthless ambition and a winning mentality. If he ultimately fails to revive the fortunes of LFC, let it not be because he was not given the tools to implement his blueprint. You clearly have faith in him, FSG, and so do I. He - and the fans - are worth risking some dollars for."
"As i said one step forward two backward...well except Sturidge what are the chances of getting Sneider in the team, we are desperate for that third creative midfilder,Shelvy Allen Sahin all fail to impress..one player in january will just keep us in the League but nothing more "
"I can't understand why so many fans are coming on here crying about losing? I mean come on, we have a clueless manager and owners that seem to be more than happy with him losing games,. so just get used to being bottom of the league from now on because with that clown that is the only place we will be"
"A Ani Rant- Woke up this morning and saw the back page of the Mail newspaper. 'Rafa want's Villa to partner Torres'. For a second I thought buzzing, Villa at LFC. Then woke up properly and realised Rafa ain't our manager and we would never buy Villa. Yet 4 years ago that would of been a possibility. "
"What has changed? We now have owners who are obsessed with profits and not interested in investing. We now have certain fans (on these pages) who accept that, yet say FSG are doing a brilliant job. 4 years guys! Maybe less than that and we where compet-ing for the best players around. For some, we accept that we are a club running on a budget that equates to Neverton, Newcastle Utd and so on. "
"9mm USP......brilliant man. Couldn't have said it better myself.
The yanks have got themselves a nice little " cash cow" .....haven't they. Oh and don't mention the talk of the "new"stadium."
"We had no game plan change in forward area no matter who we had as subsutes. And Defense became on and off every second week. I wish KK was still coaching. When KK was last year, we didn't score goal due to Carol's flob, but we didn't conceded so many goals like this season."
"Why are we accepting this? Why have some been brain washed into thinking that we have to run on a shoestring? Why have we accepted a manager with no success but for one good season in the Prem? Why do people keep on justifying defeats as progress? "
"So we are going to sign a Man City and Chelsea reject so why is Daniel Sturridge good enough for us if he isn't good enough for 2 teams we should be competing with? We need to stop thinking we are a small team in transition. We are LFC - the most succesful club in England, one of the richest clubs in the world. How the mighty have fallen. "
"Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers: "We had a perfect start with our first penalty of the season. You couldn't ask for any more but we are very disappointed by how we defended. We have nobody to blame but ourselves, you have to defend better than that. We failed to control the game once we scored, we didn't deal with the first ball forward."
"I think some of the players are only interested in their pay cheques and not in tune with our aim as LFC. Am just tired of this one step forward 2 steps backward results.LFC is now a laughing stock when it comes to present day football. Very Pathetic."
"Yeah i thought brendan hasnt got a clear mind. What happened to" if you dont concede goals you win games"??? and he took away suso and lucas,and d slowpoke shelv still on. outside of that,i think gerrard's and reina's form have increased,but our defence was porous:-("
"The easiest team to bully in the Premier League is certainly Liverpool. The hassling by Stoke got our defence very jittery most times. Our team is just too poor to be compeive. The team doesn't put in enough effort to come back when they are down. Subsutions today was very poor. How on earth did Shelvy finish the match?Why was Lucas subsuted? Joe Cole???"
"I put this out there to all the posters, and there are a few 'regulars' that even now slate KK- how is this cr4p an improvement. Come out of your hiding places and answer the question. COS IT ISN'T, IT'S E."
"Cant think of any positives. Well done Stoke. The best team won tonight. Poor starting 11, poor choices for subs. BR is going to have to pull something out of the bag soon as all of his decisions seem baffling. "
"BTW. I am not Rafa's greatest fan. Felt he lost it towards the end. Just comparing how a few years ago we would be competing with the best teams for the best players signatures. Now we are competing with the likes of EVERTON..."
"Diabolical! Apart from Enrique and Suarez nobody turned up! This showed the total lack of quality on the squad which BR needs to change.Shelvey?Suso mabe future but not this side of 2-3yrs! Simply a shocking state of a club left by KK and predecesors! Forget Ince we need a ball winner in the middle now with a brain rather than more inexperienced players for the 'future'! "
"I am going to repeat what NigelM said "Brendan Rodgers has now been in charge for 31 games, the same number as Roy Hodgson. Their records are identical: won 13, drawn 9, lost 9. If those stats weren't good enough for Hodgson then they shouldn't be good enough for Rodgers." You're right Nigel. Sack Brendan Rogers now!"
"How many years will it take for Liverpool to get back in the champions league??? Cos the longer it is the harder it gets cos all the top player will not come to us, we're gonna end up like Everton, a 6th 7th 8th club! People say it's gonna take time, but if your not playing CL football then good players go to other clubs and it gets even harder to get back. We are in serious trouble! "
"Mediocre efforts by the players. The players were still in holiday mode when they showed up. Lack of fight, ideas and vigor. Its going to be a very long season."
"Look at Everton, they are a bigger team than us and having a financial problem as well. But they manage to fly high this season. Why.....
U can't ask for more great players even though we need more. But we need better management and that is our illness for years."
"I think we are too predictable. Opposing teams know we are going to try to pass them off the field so they just pack the defence with 2 rows of 4 players then hit us on the break. Its happened game after game after game. What annoys me is Rafa is beginning to weave his magic at Chelsea...that could've been us grrrr!"
"It is only going to get worse for us fans, just as soon as Suarez puts in for a transfer request. Because lets be serious what world class players would want to play for this crap."
"not suprise result. Yeah..give BR more chance until relegated. If lose vs QPR, we will down to 12th. and after that, fans still say..give him more chance. For me it's so simple. LFC are great club. Thats why LFC need great manager. 1 question for all..who Brendan Rodgers? i just see Brendan just start to learn football management here. So sad that's team are LFC."
"Stoke City singing 'you're not famous anymore' and 'can we play you every week' does that not effing hurt? Cos it does me. Like a dagger through my heart. Carry on backing these meddling incompetent clowns, and you're backing failure. Simple as that. LFC are in a right mess. And it's up to FSG to get us out of it. Back LFC, or get out FSG. "
"Most of you "fans" are a joke. I'm actually embarrassed for you. I seriously hope none of the players or anyone affiliated with liverpool behind the scenes don't read the comments here, you are a disgrace to this football club. You are the reason football management is how it is in the modern day"
"i think BR will not buy 100% pure striker in winter transfer window because Fborni will back on team so BR defiantly want to prove his signing.Must need to buy Latin American players not English "
"Cagger.....clearly you don't understand our culture. We don't slate our own on a public platform. Even in despair we have dignity. We are LFC......we use these in-house platforms to vent our feeling. It is what families do.
We leave the cheap emotions with the likes of the Blackburns and Villas etc....WE ARE LFC. YNWA"
"Lets just sack every manager after 6 months in charge, surely that enough time to get a top 4 spot with this threadbare team!! Why can't we even beat Stoke at home, no-one else has this season, we should have done with this team!! Bar Luis & Jose, today's team performance was poor..move on!!"
"In defence you need a Hyypia, Terry(the old one), Ferdinand, Kompany i.e. a defender who consistently heads away long balls. Agger does not do this and Skrtel is not consistent. We knew how they were going to play. Coates need games and has to prove he is good. Pass and move....where was it. "
"Sell Skrtel! He is bull, cost us match against villa, BR can't see that shawcross is miles better than skrtel, we need players who can score, relying on suarez is not enough, yet he have not heard any big name striker coming to liverpool, we should buy right from the first day!! We should go for a proven striker like david villa or falcao rather than wasting money on peanuts!"
"25 points from 19 games is the worst I have ever seen as a liverpool fan, I can understand we had a hard start so I could except 2 points out of 5 hard league games, but it's gone to far now. I knew we'd draw or lose today but didn't want to say it but deep down I knew, this team leaks goals and doesn't score enough! Can't wait till the seasons over never mind the year! YNWA"
"All the goals by Stoke scored from close range within the box shows our frailties in defence. These are considered cheap goals that could have been avoided or keep their scoring chances down at least. What a waste? OK No point lamenting missed chances with so many 'if's. Now lets see if we can collect 3 points at QPR next. YNWA!! "
"Tony pulis Suarez is a world class player only because they won the game I wonder if they would of lost the game from Suarez penalty wot he would of said if stoke would of lost Suarez dived etc etc etc"
"Like yourself Rushjob. I am just sick and tired of accepting mediocrity and then using transition as a form of comprehension. I like BR as a man. But seriously feel he is out of his depth. As for the owners- Don't get me started. "
"Disgrace. LFC MOTM Suso - subsuted at half time? Suarez was the only second. Everybody else... very poor, Downing the worst, again. Brendan to blame for second conceded: we should mark both posts when defending corner (specially against Stoke). Howard Webb had a fantastic game and not only for giving us a penalty kick (and I'm not in the business of praising referees). "
"Rushjob9 you're very good at diverting all your words onto FSG and I agree with you I don't want them either but Brendan is the manager, he picks the tactics and the team and he has enough good players not to be making such a mess of things. Brendan needs to be sacked! And deep down you know it but you can't bring yourself to come out and say it. "
"What's the chance of getting Rafa back ??? can't believe we play BR crap football ! He put the same team and tactics as Fulham last week - no imagination, no ideas. My worry is where will we be if he stays until the end of the season??? ruined my christmas !"
"We are a work in progress and I'm a huge fan of the Manager, he's an outstanding leader. But the lesson from today is that everytime you run onto the pitch at this level you have to play with a high level of intensity and energy and that just wasn't there today. Let's play with that required level of intensity against QPR on Sunday and move on. "
"The way we are playing at the moment, I see another away defeat against QPR. teams we have beaten this season. Reading, Southampton, Norwich, Fulham, West ham and Wigan. Poor, poor poor. Positive is we are half way through the season and we are only 15 points of 40 points, normally good enough to stay in the Prem."
"liverpool need a stionrong holding midfielder,a striker who can hold the ball and keep others in play, we dont have that at moment and we are paying the price,our de fence at times very poor at times when we play against aggressive oppositions like today.
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"Luis"Legend"Suarez- Don't patronise us mate. We are Liverpool fans not Swansea or QPR fans. Off course we are angry and have every right to be. We give praise when things are going well, yet have every right to complain at our abject performances "
"See Wigan 's spot on the table now. We almost had Wigan's manager as Liverpool manager this season. What a vision. I won't blame BR as he 's good at his level. It's all about our management that ills the club performance for years."
"I hate to say it but we are now a mid table club. I like BR as a person but I think we are too predictable now...even the so called "lower" clubs know how to play us. I think we may need someone with more tactical idea like Rafa used to have for us. I know he wasn't perfect at times but at least he could attract good players...not just ones he'd worked with before."
"I am sure BR is working on the right formula for this team and the passing game is part of this formula. However, we do not have a goal scorer apart from Suarez. I hope Sturridge (Plus any new comers) will add some more scoring power by taking advantage of so many wasted chances Liverpool create in every game."
"Lets move on, thats all we have been saying this season, cant see the next half the season being any differant, thats a guttless team that doesnt care about playing for Rodgers, Rodgers tactics arnt any better, were going no were, were a joke."
"Red to the core- maybe you're right. I always try and back the gaffer that's all. But maybe you are correct. However, if we keep ripping up new managers blue prints every 8 months we'll continue to get nowhere. FSG are the ones making the incompetent decisions. They're the ones going for managers happy to simply be at LFC. They are a fraud."
"Brendan should never have got the job in a million years. Bring back Kenny or Rafa no more of Brendan Rogers I've seen enough. He's rubbish. He has a good enough squad to be challenging for the CL places. FSG don't pick the team or the tactics Brendan does and he's proved time and time again that's he is useless and full of excuses. "
"Red to the core- maybe you're right. I always try and back the gaffer that's all. But maybe you are correct. However, if we keep ripping up new managers blue prints every 8 months we'll continue to get nowhere. FSG are the ones making the incompetent decisions. They're the ones going for managers happy to simply be at LFC. They are a fraud."
"O yeah my last point is that stoke city has a better strike force than liverpool and a better defence and that is very very worrying ! Just embarrassing really! Every 1 laughs at Liverpool these days, we have become a joke of a inconsistent team! And year it has ruined my christmas aswel! YNWA"
"Manager is not problem, but our players....some needs time...some should be sold...we are in transformation process...we play Sterling, Suso, Shelvey etc. they are talented, but are not complete players...they need at least 2-3 years...we need 4-5 new faces ."
"How many times this season do I have to say this! LFC are the greatest team in the world but totally let down by most of the current players, manager and owners!"
"We won't get great players or great manager so soon. It's not what the club management or owner try to do now. So stop hoping for that.
For now, we continue to like our club, but hope Man U does not win PL...."
"What a mess we have become. 'Can we play you every week' being sung by Stoke City to us tonight. That must open pro BR and FSG persons eyes surely. What an effing shambles. "
"Luis"Legend"Suarez - Some of us fans are a disgrace, don't make me laugh. The only disgrace are fans like you who have settled for mediocrity. Just last year we played far superior football than we do now under BR stewardship. If we had employed an experienced top class manager we would not be in this predicament. Instead we went with the cheapest option a poor manager. cont."
"I wish we had the believe Man U has coming back from behind/loss to win in the last min of the game, the last 20 min we were too desperate and no patient, poor decision making too bad, we could have had this one "
"Oh dear, and I have been so hoping that BR could convince me the team are heading in the right direction and the sacking of KK was a good future plan.... big joke. And if he mentions at the press conference that we played well and we were unlucky, I'll send him the money for an eye test! Please FSG do something before it is too late.... YNWA"
"Gerrard o ya beauty - you talk rubbish. Stoke are not better team than present LFC. They are not overplayed us and we had more chances than them. They scored lucky goals..."
"Some of the comments calling for the Manager to be sacked are just utterly ridiculous, geez two games ago we won 4-0 and some of you want him gone! It's bizarre. Have a good hard look at yourselves. Under this bloke we will achieve great things, mark my words."
"To all liverpool Fans The next game against QPR will be another lost game for us Harry Rednap has beaten us regularly in recent time and he is rubbing his hand to get 3 pts.against us may god save us. "
"Rushjob I agree we should of stood by Kenny he won us our first trophy in 6 years and if the lads had turned up in the first half against Chelsea in the FA Cup we would of won two. Stand by the manager but don't use BLIND FAITH to justify your clear loyalty to the club. Brendan is totally out of his depth and should be sacked and you know it Rushjob. "
"Rodgers had a poor track record with Watford, close to being sacked before he left by mutual consent, and then sacked by Reading. The same Reading Mcdermott has taken to the Prem. Yes he took over a ready made Swansea team complied by Martinez. He has had one good season in management, and now he is worthy of managing the great LFC. We are a laughing stock a the top teams."
"not happy with todays game, looking forward to the new year though, team did not look strong against a very determined stoke, some comments on here are silly, its just one match, these things happen, we do need more strength though!"
"The team list showed that BR had not special preparation for Stoke's physical approach. He kept the same team that outclassed Fulham, a team that tries to pass the ball. Playing Shelvy as the most advanced midfielder is not working as Shelvy's first touch is not often great&he is not creative enough. We don't move fast enough into opponents territory to take advantage of good situations."
"Where once did i say i accept mid table mediocre performances? Have you actually read some of the comments here? Majority of them are border line tarded. Nothing constructive and in support of our club, regardless of manager/owners. If you compare todays comments to the ones just 4 days ago, its ridiculous. It takes 1 defeat from fans to say "In Brendan we trust" to "Brendan out""
"According to official stats after 19 league games:
last season: w:9, d:7, l:3, gs:24, ga:15, points: 34
this season: w:6, d:7, l:6, gs:28, ga:26, points: 25
Someone please tell me how this is an improvement !
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"Here we go again, the "BR out" clan are back! The amount of gibberish out of your mouths is amusing but I will not be reading today. Didn't show up to play today boys but move on to the next.
YNWA"
"gutted today to lose to stoke.i new it was a difficult game, but having loss to villa at home make this loss dramatic. BR is not the solution to lfc,he is a cheap one for fsg. we have enough good players to be at the level of everton or spurs or even west brom. we should have brought back rafa!!!"
"nigelM - last season we finished with 52 pts and eight..we had better first half, but very poor second half of the season...this season should be opposite.
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"hopeless .. reina has to go and why hasn't rodgers been questioned hodges was sacked for the same thing not being able to win games .. top four very very unlikely europa is the only chance for anything this season hope things change alot in the new year good luck reds"
"we lost to stoke city and villa...that says it all. i can see us coming back against qpr and maybe sunderland but then it will be very tough ..manU,man city and arsenal away,that could be the end of the season, or maybe not..doubt it though "
"redahendo - Gerard was our best player in last two games. He had many injuries previous two season and played EUro...this little affected him, but he is still good player and give us 3-4 years...our problems are completly different and Rodgers needs funds and time to settle it."
"Red to the core. Not a clue what the answer is. Fed up of our club lurching from one crisis to the next. My point is that poorly managed companies usually perform poorly. And that's what LFC has sadly become. If you have a credible solution once BR has been removed- I'm all ears. What I do know is unless we finished above 8th, win a cup, and another final- we've gone backwards."
"Arhat - Im by now way disputing SGs class and he will always be a legend. I just think that hes left us as a leader. He played well last week, but that was it.I cant see any organisation from him. No cheering the players on. Nothing for months or even years."
"Maybe I'm being irrational? I always feel that it's always best to refrain from expressing an opinion after defeat as anger/annoyance can blind your opinion. contd... "
"One thing I am 100% certain with- Our owners have got us into a small club treading water kinda mentality. Not the LFC I have grown up on. Rushjob hit the nail on the head when reciting Stoke's chants "you're not famous anymore" sadly, that rings true"
"How can the fans blame Brendan for that garbage? The players let us down again!
That was one of the worst passing displays I've seen in a long time. Shocking performance by Shelvey and Gerrard in particular with Enrique and Johnson close behind. And the defence were scared tonight. Too many players not good enough for LFC."
"I do agree about shelvey, I didnt see enough from him today, a bad day at the office, suso should be our most advanced central midfielder, pulling the strings for the forwards. At least sturridge will shoot on site...."
"Ani - No probs pal. Thats what I'm here for!I'm not really MI6 - You just have to have a good nose for BS and mines roman in proportion.I still dont know y we have to persist with LS?How many chances does the guy need?"
"redahendo One thing I can't agree with you on mate is your opinion on Suarez. I do take your point that he tries to take on the whole defence himself at times when he could look uo. But equally I feel without him and we would be facing a relegation battle... Suso hasn't scored. Sterling scored 1. Shelvey I think scored 1. Who else to do we have to put the ball in the back of the net?"
"Some fans have got short memories having a go at FSG. Just remember what state we were in before they took over. And I can't remember a massive queue of buyers with a wedge of cash willing to invest?
They've given the cash but it's been largely wasted.
The players are 100% to blame. They were cowards tonight."
"Ani - Its not particular LS i blame but BR for persisting with him. Every time he doesn't play we knock em in left right and centre. I think BR is too weak to drop LS and SG for fear of a backlash instead of making an intelligent choice."
"Hope the owners were watching this shambles - disgraceful - yet again. No excuses please Brendan, neither your teams or your ideas are good enough to beat any but the most mediocre opposition."
"Our lack of inspiration on the bench is a laughing stock. Hendo may be able to change a game but certainly not 3-1 down to stoke. We have no wildcard to bring on. Teams get hold of us and they know weve got nothing in the bag to get at them."
"Redahendo why persist with LS you must be a comedian in your day job?
He is the only class performer we've got week in week out including Stevie?
Without his goals we'd be looking up at QPR"
"A very bad day at the office.
After the penalty the team could not just get going. The boys tried to pass it but were always closed down by a very hard working Stoke team.
The first two goals for me were avoidable and even the third had a question mark as to whether it was a fine finish or a goalkeeper error,
I think we need to find some consistency soon if we are to rise up the table."
"We weren't that bad today, except for the defensive errors. Shelvey and Suarez both had super chances and miscontrolled. Again, the problem is in taking chances. "
"redahendo- So you drop the Premier leagues leading scorer or up there and replace him with who? Who will score for us? Borrini? Sterling? Suso? Ngoo? Morgan? Sorry mate. Can't agree on that one"
"Im sick to the back teeth of people saying without LS goals we would be nowhere. Bull. Without van Persie Man U would be nowhere but if he wasnt playing they would still be up there. So wehat youre all saying is were a 1 man team. Bull"
"Ani - We did ok without him at West Ham. I would say they were tougher opponents than Villa and Stoke. Weve done ok before only for him and SG to come on as subs and then lose."
"Redahendo what planet are you on!
United have Ronney, Hernande, Welbeck, Valencia and Young!
They came 2nd without RVP what have we got?
Yes for goal scoring we are a one man team? You obviously can't handle the truth!"
"redahendo- Well u tell me one player or a few players who could hit the back of the net? I do see your point with Suarez and how he tries to do so much but can't see anyone else who could do better or how the team would be better without him. #justsaying"
"POOL1966 - Dont you think that he unbalances the team. Hes a right Diva. All he seems to do is nutmeg players then smash it 5 yards wide. Why doesnt BR see how we are without him and then if he's that great bring him on as a sub if things arent going well?"
"Ani - wasnt having a rant at you mate. I just feel that people dont see whats under their eyes. I used to play 5 aside with a couple of LS characters. They were skilled but every time we played we lost badly - like 16-1 etc. When the non footballers played in place of them we used to win.I just think he unbalances the side IMAO."
"tactics all wrong coates shud of started or be brought on, they made us look like kids the way they bullied us hard to watch 3 games 1 win 2 losses same as drawing all, just not good enough."
"Redahendo agreed we look unbalanced but that's not LS fault. He feels he has to do everything himself and most of the time he does.
The team is too inconsistent and too full of players who are not good enough as a result. I agree with you unfortunately Stevie is one of those."
"I do see your point which does concern me with Daniel Sturidge. He reminds me of Milan Baros. Quick, got a good shot but never lifts his head. Suarez at least justifies his inclusion with goals. Personally I would of preferred a player who doesn't rush things and looks at his options, maybe someone to partner Suarez but not instead of him. "
"Do see your point though. I have played a lot of football myself and it does annoy me players who wan't to be the hero all the time. Anyway, i'm out for the night. Sleep well"
"not all rodgers s fault in experienced just here cos fsg dont have to pay him as much comolli and kk should have been more careful with that kitty we got last year 35 mill for carrol when we didnt really need him 20 mill each for hendo n downing come on cont.."
"We need height. Never was that more obvious than against a team with lots of it. We were also badly out-coached by one of the Premiership's worst villains. We need the likes of Andy Carrol but BR is busy empire building so refuses to work the big man into his system. Maybe he's intimidated by height. Go you Munchkin men.
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"Pool and Ani.Sorry for ranting. The bottles are stacking up next to me! I just feel strongly that we rely far too much on him and SG and the younger players fear failure while those are watching and therefore lose confidence. Remember how LS shouted at RS?"
"We need more ruthless and gutsy goal hungry players with winning mentality from January onward if we want to be in Europe. FSG please take the check book out now and not later."
"redahendo- Haha mate. No worries. Couldn't resist another refresh of my webpage before turning in. Make sure our mate doesn't find out you been on the grog... Night mate"
"Pullis and his team knew they were going to win, even when they went 0-1 down they weren't discouraged, they hit back in a short time to lead 2-1 and it was only a matter of time before we went 1-3 down. Stoke were supremely confident all match. We simply have now end product, we are a very fragile team at the moment. They are a better team than us now. "
"This defeat by Stoke, a team that is by no means prolific and the 3-1 loss to an average Villa team points to the fact that all is not well with our defense.
I think that in addition to getting a potent striker or two this January. We also need to shore up either our defensive midfield or the defense itself.
We as supporters have to keep the faith And hope that we will get there in the end."
"I reckon Barcelona would have lost vs. Stoke last night. The model of play that we seem to have adopted might be an ideal mode of play, but it evidently can be overcome in the Premiership, especially when the ref's going to allow a load of physical play pass. Brendan's creating a team in his own image. Unfortunately, it's only 5'6'' tall.
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"Bring back Dalglish? What a joke. Rodgers is beginning to worry me. Sturridge is his idea of an answer to Liverpool's scoring problems. The FSG should start taking this club seriously."
"degsy62 wishful thinking by the end of the season we might not even be a mid-table team. There have been too many dreadful performances since Brendan took over to put it down to bad luck. In the absence of leadership chaos reigns. Brendan Rogers is not the right man for Liverpool FC and he never will be."
"RopMange there's a chance Suarez might not be here by the end of January. Why would he want to stay when we are such a shambles? All the best teams in Europe will be lining up for him and I wouldn't blame him if he asked to leave the club. We are going backwards. "
"Boxing day and we are 10th? I wonder if the players or manager are reading this comment. If they do, I demand apologies from them on the poor form to all lfc fans wordwide."
"We were terrible in midfield as well. jonjo had a veri bad game. shld have taken jonjo out and replacded him with henderson. play gerrard behind suarez and henderson behind along with lucas... we cld hav turned the game around. jonjo didnt the deserve the full 90 mins in my opinion. reina could have done better as well."
"With Shelvey playing what does everyone expect. He needs a season on loan to learn the trade. Plenty of potential but not 1st team material yet. Others dont trust him. Keep on going boys. Lets do the best we can. Expectations shouldnt be very high. Top half with massive improvement learning the BR system will be success. YNWA!! "
"i was hoping lfc could get above the 30 points by new year, but it will be impossible now. BR has no experience in top flight and poor tactics. better to have 3 points than p-laying like barca n nothing"
"pretty hard to watch the game today, too many errors being made. knew it would be tough to play there but my goodness were the guys tired tonight or what? anxious to see who else we getting in this window. Considering all the goals lost by losing Bellamy, Kuyt, Maxi and Co Sturridge alone just wont cut it. I am concerned YNWA"
"Who says Stoke City is average team. We are average team because we have average manager and average players. Our name cant make us a big team automatically. Once we were cause we had world class manager and world class players and for that we made a world class team. Sorry for those who want us to support the manager even when he has proven failure. "
"So where is your big mouth now Mr.Downing? Get the hell out of our club asap! You were never and you will never be worthy of donning our colours. As for transfers in January, if we can't beat this sorry bunch, no amount of transfers is going to help us. Flippin' Stoke...."
"If you try to play keep ball in your own third of the pitch you always stand a chance of giving the uperhand to the other team why not get the ball away from your own end and play in your opositions third or is that something BR does not understand"
"Enough talking about the details, the big picture is clear. The clueless clown out, and the Farrt Sports Group too. Every fan believes that LFC is, thus must act as, a big club should punish FSG in their pockets. "
"Third class tactics...Knowing Stoke, you son of a #&h manager, we should have fielded Coates, Wisdom and I would never start Suso and other lightweights in these games unless you have your passing game as strong as Barcelona!!"
"Oh dear, we lost. By the way most of you kids are reacting we just got relagated. As for people who say 'you are accepting mediocrity by still supporting our team'. Really? Is that what you really think? Are you that stupid, or can you not see that fans support the team win, lose or draw. We win together, we lose together. Grow up you f-ing babies. "
"Liverpool need a bigger manager.this one is confused to the point of continuously subsuting Lucas by the non-talented Henderson and praising a Downing just because he scores once in a blue moon."
"Fear not, one more game v QPR and then we'll be getting in some much needed reinforcements. Borini's on his way back mid to late january. its all coming together. by seasons end we'll have a fuller picture of what we're all about.
Optimistic Red
SLIM"
"It is now three British managers in a row taking the team down making it a mid table team.no team is afraid of LP these days.FSG if you are honest on returning LP to its greatness then get a world class manager & he will do the rest."
"All the comments we hear every week are similiar to KD's remarks and don't mean a thing. If we are honest, we were outplayed, out fought and out thought by a much maligned side, who belied belief and produced a good display of attacking football, to which we had no answer. (cont)"
"There is a time and place when the ball should be distributed by the keeper to outfield players and that is not when the opposition is pressing in our final third. We pressurised ourselves. Variety is the key."
"Same as last year, after all the rumours we look likely to have a guy who we virtually gave away not too long ago. and a man who can't keep his game at Chelsea and reputedly may be a restless influence.
Can anyone in their wildest dreams envisualise these two being the answer to our prayers. CONNED AGAIN!!!"
"Cheap American owners.
Ian Ayre. What are you doing? I thought you were a supporter?
Get these clowns out. Brendan will ONLY succeed with LOTS of money.
Otherwise we need a TOP manager who can get the most out these players week in week out."
"When is this pain going to end?
Now coming to the realization we belong to the middle of the road teams in the division.
Never thought it would ever happen to us."
"I'll see glimpses of BRs system and I'll think we really have a chance to make a solid push in the second half of the season. All we need is a striker to work well with Suarez in the box and make smart runs. Then in the summer we'll pick up a world class player and be and solid force next season. You can't win the Premier League every week. Give the man a chance. YNWA"
" Funnily, when we win many of the people think we have arrived only to be brought rudely to earth by a loss such as this. What is glaring is that Liverpool is heading to relegation or at most a long time at mid tables until we get an ambitious ownership with some passion and less grabblesomness, and of course a less docile fan base."
" luis legend suares, comments like urs embody the stupid mentality that has brought this once great club to this pathetic state, cos everyone except those running this club and the likes of u knows that things are not right."
" This support your team crap doesn't wash any more. Not with this kind of display. Has no one noticed that the reason Gerrard is not up to his best is that he sees nothing to play for. Watch him closely."
"Rafa Benitez : Played awesome = 8-0.
Played badly = 1-0.
Fact : Win is a win. Important is we
get 3 point on every games.
Bring back RAFA BENITEZ!!!YNWA"
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