Quality player! Even if he's getting used to the Prem he still should have started more games ahead of Allen. Allen is not at Sahin's level. Doubt he'll play holding posiition though with Lucas back.
"Surely a talented player, but after a good start the EPL are demonstrating really tough for him, mentally and overall physically. For me he has still to work on his body strenght and mental toughness to adapt to a so difficult league, see him more as attacking midfielder than as holding midfielder who lies deep. For me he should be a valid alternative to Jonjo Shelvey in a more attacking role."
"Ruchjob9 couldn't agree more. think hes been rubbish for us so far. People clinging onto reputation.Joe allen has been a much better player hence hes been playing. "
"Joe Allen is the best player in midfield atm.. please stop writing that bull**** about him
Nuri is very good too, but to get in to the PL style costs a lot to a player who didn't play in 1 year.."
"I'd have played Sahin in u21s to get him fit, as he's way off the pace so far. No doubt he's v skillful but without match fitness it's nothing. I'm not sure he'll reach his peak much before May. Ok if he signs a longer deal on (lots) less cash than paid in Spain, but he's not lived up to his Bundesliga reputation at all. Still time though."
"It is curious that if Sahin prefers the holding role and Allen prefers going forward, why BR has employed them in opposite roles. Perhaps we would have benefitted in the final third, from Allen and SG getting more forward. ???"
"MO786LFC not saying hes not good enough. But it clearly obvious that allen is playing better than him at the minute. Granted sahin did extremely well in germany but hes failed to make an impact yet. Hopefully he will come good!"
"MO786LFC: Why you are calling fellow Liverpool fans "idiots" and "fools" because they hold a different opinion from you? What is your problem? You need to learn how to disagree like a grown man, without calling people names that you would never say to someone in real life. Wind your neck in lad, too many keyboard warriors on this site already.."
"MO786LFC- Yet has done absolutely nothing at LFC. As a fan, im not remotely ar5ed about what he's done, and where. What I do know is since he joined us, he's been very very poor. And as for playing for Germany- isnt he Turkish?????
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"Nuri is stressing here that the position his qualities come most into effect is defensive/holding mid, this is clearly evident as the only time he was deployed in that role was against West Brom in the carling cup, he was the stand out performer away from home, MOTM as he brought the team forward from the back and bagged 2 goals in the process,2-1 LFC win. BR please give him a chance there."
"SAHIN is avery good midfielder. he is just not at that high tempo match fitness yet as he dint play for almost a whole season. but i know soon he will be praised."
"Talented player but I am surprised to hear that his preferred position is holding midfielder.
Don't think he has the strength to do that in the premiership but hey I will like to be proved wrong."
"West brom have proved that they are a dominant side during this season currently sitting in 4th place, therefore sahin did prove he has the pace and agression for holding cm spot in the EPL"
"Defensive/holding midfield is more about timing, interception, picking the right pass,reading the game faster than others, setting the main foundation to build up play, strength is overrated in the prem, look at s.busquets."
"Rushjob9- I was on to that as well! Reference playing for Germany at all levels... SGM 73- Agree mate, whilst it's good to debate, i cannot stand people saying things like 'idiots and fools'. It gets my back up and I end up dropping to their level. People should show more respect as we are all part of the LFC family"
"I think Nuri has a lot more to offer Liverpool. He is not at his best yet and hopefully he can step up a level in the new year.But the premiership is a lot more physical than other leagues and some players never adjust to that. YNWA"
"Sahin hasn't been good at all. Infact dreadful but some players do take time to adjust. Prob is that he is only with us for one season so does seem like a waste of time. BR hasn't been astute with his signings/loan deals so far! Hopefully that will change come January. "
"Lol Buddha u r having a dig at someone for doing exactly what u do in many of ur posts? I may be a new poster but have been reading here long enough to see u belittling people who don't agree with u. Then have the cheek to criticize others for doing it? What a joke"
"I'm sorry Buddha but I have no idea what you are going on about? You been on the sause hey? Ok apart from my joke about Everton fans beating up their wives (which is a very common joke in Liverpool) but got taken out of context on here. Do you ever see people arguing with me or insuting me or visa versa? Nope!"
"Why? Because I don't come on these pages and say things like 'what have I told you peoeple? (which suggests that we are mere delinquents in your eyes. One thing I learnt when I was younger and belive me I was pretty opionated and confrontat-ional as a kid- If you have an opinion there is ways of putting it across even if it is against what most others think. "
"An example being 'Personally in my opinion I feel that.... As opposed to 'there are idiot fans on here' or whatever... This is a LFC forum for goodness sake. Friend with similar interests. I don't argue with anyone else. "
"You know deep down that you are riling people. What I am not sure about is that you do it for a reaction or that you are sick of the average kopite with their morals and pribciples. (e,g) Torres, Owen are judas's, yet KD is a god? But as ever, you never open up and duck the questions that myself and many others have asked... "
"Like I say Buddha- I couldn't give a rats ass what anybody has done before. I only care about LFC, and now. And there is no hiding or spin that anybody can put on the fact that in 2012, at LFC Nuri Sahin has been cr4p. Jay Spearing would have been as effective/ineffective. "
"I understand the reasons why, but you'd think we'd have learnt from Aquilani that signing unfit players is plain stupid. LFC keep making the same mistakes over and over again. All we are doing with Sahin is paying to get another clubs player fit. No room for passengers LFC..."
"Ani-rd 05. You've made the error of 'taking the bait'! You're like a carp that keeps getting caught by the same person, using the same techniques. Rise above it amigo. I get what you say, and reckon most match going local people do too. Let the 'baiters' pass over your head, and they'll move onto a different lake! Chill...."
"Ani-rd. Get on twitter mate (if not already on). Like minded fans debating and communicating which should you desire- you can block. Have some great debates etc on there with fellow reds. Don't entertain Mancs or Rentboys on there either! "
"Rushjob. You hit the nail on the head... Buddha feels that if you are either in one camp or the other. I have yet to say BR out like I stood by Kenny. I have admitted that KD made some errors as I have with BR. Just because I wanted KD to stay doesn't mean I am blinded. If I wanted BR to go it isn't because he took Kenny's place. "
"But yeah, i have thaken the bait. Just want the guy to open up instead of thinking that we all are like school kids taking sides. I wan't best for LFC and I have said before if it meant Dave Bassett and his Wimbledon style tactics of the 80's but brought success. i'd take him."
"Lol ok Buddha have read plenty of the nonsense that u post including my personal favorite 'if kk had listened to me he'd still have the job' lmao classic armchair fan. The post I refer to however was today's where u belittled smg73 by patronising him and finished urban post with "get real pal""
"I like to see players giving 100%, for me he only looks like he gives about 75%.The guys got talent but he never seems to turn up. There's still time though to impress More effort please Nuri."
"Maybe u should take ur own advice, because the way u talk down to people on here is bang out of order. Maybe it's u that needs to get real pal, we're all equal on here"
"And implying I shouldn't be posting, just reading the drivel that u post, that's exactly what i'm talking about! What gives u the right to tell others they can't join in on the forum? "
"Bit apprehensive about disclosing my ident-ity on a forum mate. Nothing to hide but well you know? If you wan't to give yours, I can then follow you and drop a private tweet. "
"Ok Buddha... You took the bait. You knew I was referring to yourself by the Welsh Iniesta line and remarking a bufoon. I was having a snide remark as you do all the time pal. I was wrong. You still ain't answering the questions though!!!"
"Buddha- do you not get utterly bored of a antagonising and disagreeing? I've suggested a zillion times that you, me, and everybody else on here is neither right or wrong. We are all just Numpties ultimately thinking out aloud. It's nearly Xmas-peace on earth and all that..... Knock it on the effing head will you #boring "
"Was a quality player, but yet to show that here. That's not up for debate. It's a simple fact. I bet Butcher and Ince wore wry smiles when he left the field with a nosebleed! If, Sahin was British, and a KK signing, you'd be going ape Buddha. Hendo has done a lot more than Sahin- hence game time. "
"SURPRISE, SURPRISE, LFC'S MOST IRRITATING 'FAN' ARGUING WITH THE WORLD AND HIS WIFE AGAIN. SAHIN HASN'T DONE MUCH YET...... HERE'S HOPING !!! JAN MOLBY RECKONS HE'S SOME PLAYER..... COME ON NURI, LET'S SEE IT !!!"
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