"Three comments 1. BR, thanks for your honesty and sincerity in acknowledging your wrong starting formation - it didn't work but you got it so right in the second half. 2. I hope Stevie is rested for the week. He was awesome in the second period - he's so crucial. 3. Thanks to the wonderful fans in such great voice at the end. YYYNNNAAA"
"I really really hope our big names stay to see Liverpool reach the goal of top 4 over the next few seasons. I know Luis is very loyal, but for now I can only hope that he stays. If it wasn't for that little man, we'd be in a serious trouble."
"Great words from BR, we were pretty abysmal in the first half but picked up the pace in the end. I'm excited abt who we will sign in jan!!!
hope Stevie will b back soon!"
"Credit to BR for the good job done with the lads despite huge difficulties and to the lads for their proud performance! Sometimes the technical aspects come after the effort and the commitment, the proof of this today is clear YNWA BR & Reds"
"Spot on from BR that. Time to bench Sahin though. He's very very poor and it's like playing with ten men. I feel we'll click once Lucas returns. The midfield isn't right at the minute. Lucas in holding, Allen pressing, Gerro attacking, Sahin sat in a nice warm coat. Sorted! "
"we have 12 points pathetic we have dropped 19 points pathetic what a joke rodgers is makin lfc the laughin stock of europe also joe allen is pathetic waste of money"
"These two players need to be one goalscorer and one high quality BM.In that case,we could play 4-1-3-2 with effects.Also,one more CB or RW could be added.With Luis-we are in the mid,without him-on the bottom.With 2-3 above mentioned players-on top4,simply.YNWA>"
"PERRY 1964, A POINT AT STAMFORD BRIDGE AND YOUR HAVING A MOAN ????? FAIR ENOUGH, WE'RE FAR FROM PERFECT, BUT BE REALISTIC, A YOUNG SIDE, NEW MANAGER AND SYSTEM AND A LOT OF DIFFICULT FIXTURES EARLY DOORS, IT WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT !!! "
"Once again owfull performnca especially in the 1st half. In the 2nd half we were lucky.
BR you are making Liverpool below middle table team, your Teka Taka is not working.
Depending on too many young players is big mistake."
"BR always honest. Always brave with the decisons, makes them early, makes them tough,makes them right. Can't ask for more than that. FSG, just give the man some striking options in the New Year and we'll be fine."
"The problem that many players do not have scoring skills. Even if they got decent chance ahead of the goal, they will not convert.
Adding one or two players may improve the scoring little bit but they will not guarantee 4th place."
"why has rodgers changed the system that has worked for over forty years shankly,paisley,fagan and dalglish used it so did evans houillier and rafa even wroy hogdson used it theres an old saying if it aint broke dont fix it he totally ruined it."
"Huntelaar will not come to us. Talksport said the media in West Germany say we are not seen as a European club anymore and he is likely to go to one who is in CL."
"Stevie needs managing for games now, he's of that age and he probably needs to be used for Premiership and big games only, then bench him for the potential cameos if needed. Do we need him against Wigan? I would bench him and rest him personally."
"if the owners arent prepared to through money at it like chelski and city have done then sell some of the ownership to someone who is prepsred to spend money"
"Perry1964 are you kidding me suggesting that Hodgson used the same tactics as shanks paisley ect joker. BR is right it's a long way back but we have chased short term success for the past twenty years and only came close with Rafas team really who then seem to get it all wrong. Lets realise its going to take time to re build our great club. We will be back"
"Decent result & performance. Always optimistic & hopeful of a win when we play Chelsea but a draw today was fair. We have some very winnable league games between now and January so it would be nice to move up the table a bit and gain some momentum before we strengthen in the window. "
"Pretty shoddy today apart from after the equaliser. I think Hendo squaring it the other night against Anzhi is indicative of our squads belief in their finishing, only Luis thinks he'll find the back of the net. Enrique was good today I thought "
"gazunmine are you takin the michael were goin nowere fast if rodgers is to sucseed he needs money and lots of it theres talk of hom gettin 10 mill if thats all hes gettin then the owners dont trust him if they did we would have got a replacement for carroll give him money by all means but 10 mill what a joke "
"BR is a good manager. Anyone who thinks we should get rid needs to look how chopping and changing every season has killed our finances and cohesiveness as a squad. Keep on trucking BR, reality is we only 8 points off champs league spot...mind you 6 from relegation YNWA"
" perry1964; Just delete your LFC account please. You're clearly not a SUPPORTER of the club! You talk about pathetic, it's so called "fans" like you that are pathetic! GET OFF OUR SITE!"
"PERRY 1964, YOU'RE SO GULLIBLE, TALK OF 10 MILLION TO SPEND IS JUST THAT - PAPER TALK !!! LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE PLEASE OR WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE."
"Rodgers deserves great credit for his tactical changes during recent matches. Unlike Rafa and King Kenny he is not stuborn with his team selection / tactical set-up and is always quick to see where we are going wrong in matches and to change things around for the better."
"Huntelaar is unrealistic. Schalke playing Champions league and should be next year too. He is established there. Realistic is somebody who cant break into first 11 in big clubs, or players from smaller clubs.... I recommend Berbatov. Berbatov is box type , established in PL and adapt for Rodgers style...and could be cheap."
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11 ---- I agree with you and consider he use to have thin squad...with more deepth and quality in the squad His tactics could make double impact."
"we need either huntelaar, berbetov or soldado they no to put the ball in the net and suarez needs a help doing that asap. good result today are always hard games need to put a run together we can get up that table..."
"beanie271193, I too am excited about who we sign in the next window. I just hope that we make at least 1 top class signing and not 2 or 3 bit part players. (quality not qty) I also hope that any deal that is done is done early to get maximum games from him to gel with the rest of the squad and help us push up the table."
"Zanderzane you make me laff i will coment on what i like when i like deal with it if u think rodgers is doin a gud job thats your opinion if your happy winning fa four the next couple of years then enjoy it "
"perry1964, I am not going to slaughter you for your comments co i do think everyone is enti.tled to their opinion. However, you must stop and think about things lgically and sensibly. Cont... "
"For example, A- what are we going to achieve by changing managers every couple of months. B- Changing managers costs the club money. C- A new manager will have different ideas and will want to change playing staff again. Then we will be going through this whole cycle again. Stick with it my friend and it will come."
"This game was our worst game of the season in my point of view. What you guys think of that ? Anyway, great getting away with the 1pts. We really need new players in doing the coming transfers window, we'll need around five to six players in. #YNWA #LFC"
"PERRY1964, HOW DO YOU KNOW WE ARE GOING TO WIN FA FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS ?? I SUGGEST YOU GET BEHIND THE CLUB YOU SUPPOSEDLY SUPPORT AND HAVE SOME PATIENCE !! 1-1 AT THE CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE AND SOME FANS ARE HAVING A POP, IT DEFIES LOGIC."
"proven striker will sign in January, huntelaar would tick the box, I believe he will leave schalka if given the chance, remember he has a point2prove after disappointing spells at Madrid+Milan and I believe this may happen, signing for LFC,playing in the Prem is still a BIG move for a player,realistically he knows that he won't win CL at 04 but he could b a big part in rebuilding LFC
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"Act smart and don't be so dumb not seeing the truth. We all here knows that the summers transfer window didn't went as expected. You can see very well the situation currently at the club, you should be thankful and appreciate what you've got. We're the only team in the league right now on our one feet, while the others playing on their two feets. #YNWA #LFC"
"saying we need more players in January is a joke should have sorted the squad in august. poor management eveyone could see we were short ,our chances in the league are long gone, it,s generally a poor state of affairs."
"I'm convinced that sham's comment on here to stir it up, twice perry you have been asked to give a solution and you just continue to just moan anyone can do that,YWNWAREDS 5 or 6 new players,really? and we really have played worse than this and most teams would be happy comming away from there with a point."
"perry1964 You talk utter e. Rodgers is doing a great job with what he's got. There is no magic wand and to build a team takes time. After Jan we will improve no end and shoot up the table. 4th is still realistic. In 4 years we'll be league contenders "
"I think any manager in world would need time with this squad. There's potential, just need good signings in window. At least we're trying to play right way. If we get striker it could move Suarez out right which may affect his influence, also why was he celebrating on his own?"
"Very good point today well done. BR please realise that you sold or loaned experienced & expensive squad players & brought in who you wanted. Stop talking about the squad being thin & deliver like a Liverpool manager should!!"
"Dzeko & Walcott are the players I'd like to see if available. They know the league & wouldn't need a huge amount of time to settle in. Man City are prime for raiding & have some disillusioned players looking for game time! Admittedly wages maybe a problem though."
"Another good display and a cheap goal we gave away. Whatever happens, we need to give Enrique more playing time. If we do get an AM and striker in January and Lucas back, I think we can get that 8th position, although seriously a top 10."
"First time for me, I thought BRs comments today was honest and non-BS. Keep it that way. We gave too much respect to Chelsea in the first half. Sahin seems overwhelmed with the big games! I am not for getting any more cheap overseas players. I would love to see Dafoe in a LFC top."
"For the first season in a long time I'm looking forward to Liverpool games instead of dreading them. The position in the table does not do Rogers and players justice. The football being played is enjoyable, encouraging, inspiring and delivers hope that has been missing from this club. I feel Rogers will in time be compared to Shankley and put us back on our perch where we belong. YNWA!!!"
"It was refreshing to see us standing up to mega bucks chelski,we made it difficult for them to play their game.Yes BR may have got his tactics wrong in the 1st half,but they didnt hurt us too much.Good 2nd half,we are not too far away,as long as the players continue to give 100%.Looking forward to January! YNWA"
"Well said 'eadie71'! perry1964; I'm never 'happy' if we're not winning but we still have 2 trophies to play for this season. (League isn't realistic) Rome wasn't built in a day..."
"Yes we all know it will takr time and changing managers doesnt help. Its Nov. LFC have had 2 wins all season. These one and two season waits to improve are going to be really terrible if five or six wins a season is all we have to look forward to. It was a good point at Chelsea today, for a mid table team , which is sadly what we are now. "
"Few things stood out in the match. Allen's nickname should be sideways. Sahin needs to be used as sub. Suso to start. Enrique back with a bang. Suarez is Suarez. Carra Awesome. Sterling should play on the wing. Johnson finally played further up. Gerrard is Gerrard. BR made right decision to change formation.CONTD"
"Jones had great game. Need Lucas back.Need trhee good signings in transfer window. Playmaker, and two Strikers who are proven and are not scared to shoot on sight of goal.YNWA"
"The supporters see owners who cannot afford to compete in this league and are milking the club for every penny (cent) of profit merchandise and TV revenues provide. I despise FSG."
"as i predicted we would get at least a draw we play some nice football especially considering our thin squad once we get 2 or 3 class players in (hopefully in january) we will climb the table then summer window add a few more top additions we will be good for champs league berth trust me "
"This is Brendan's first honest interview since he came. Maybe he is out of his bullshet misguiding lies.lol
"If you're not going to have a massive investment that will make it happen very quickly, you've got to develop it. That's where we're at".
Keep waiting January FSG fans."
"if we can get mertens isco or walcott and huntelaar or hooper in jan that would be enough to get us top six this season come on buck convinced you are the right man for the job right behind you and ignore all the knowledgeable so called fans who think we are city with endless dosh YNWA"
"we could have a shed load of money in January but I don't think any big names will be eager to come to us unless we fly up the league and do well in europa and fa cups"
"so are we gonna keep drawing till we add to the group? pls wake up guys wigan next, if we dont win then rodgers got to stop talking about dominatin the game.. "
"Given the team BR inherited achieved 8th, one cup and two cup finals,you do wonder why BR felt the need to change things.For the worse. Looking at where we are now he should have left things alone and accepted KK was a far more experienced manager.
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"What a game! The fans were brilliant! Whoever questions BR now is an idiot. I was so proud of us. The second half was unreal. The only worrying thing was both Sahin and Allen. Allen seems to be nervous. Sahin needs to get up to speed. Suso is unreal and must start every game. "
"Allen will be a test for BR as he must pick his team based on form. Allen is clearly suffering at the mo. Sahin looks like he is struggling with the pace of the premiership but I have no doubt that he will get there. He must give Suso his wings he is that good. "
"It was sad watching Torres, although, I thought he looked sharper than normal. I was glad he didn't score, but I couldn't help thinking if he was still with us what a stunning partnership him Suarez would make. Suarez is so electric and a constant menace. "
"A special mention for our captain marvel. He was tremendous today. He covered every blade of grass and was the fulcrum for every good move we made. He is so dependable I am dreading the day its over for him. Arise Sir SG! "
"Anyone not questioning 13th place, 2 wins in 11 and the statement "finishing 7th would be fantatsic" would have to have their support questioned. Not to mention their sanity. You would think BR was a legend. That said, I support my manager. Like I supported the last one. Who was a legend."
"My heart just dropped for that split moment when Suarez was looking to celebrate with teammates and no one was around him. even I got an awkward bro hug whilst watching him score on Tele. Note to teammates, from now on 'you'll never celebrate alone!'"
"We need to buy Edison Cavani, A proven goalscorer, winger if needed and already plays with Luis Suarez in the national team...For Liverpool and Urguay this is a partnership that would scare any team..."
"Good come back today boys, nearly gave up my early morning football fest due to 1st half, bit lack lustre really. Need a couple of players, Get Andy Carroll back, re-buy Torres and hunt down Huntelaar. Top of the table then, for at least another 5 years to come too."
"perry1964 can you not see that each and every game the system sinks in a little tighter. From our first slaughter at the Hawthorns we have come so far. Give it time, keep the current structure and by the end of the season we will be in fine form. Look how a simple change at 1/2 time made all the difference, we have the players, we have the nouse too, we just need further practice. "
"we have played against all the big teams for first half now apart from T'hem. results against new castle,Sunderland and everton was very disappointing. but now we have only weaker team to play with thus we expect to win all the games till december and one draw.. "
"The expectation of 7 win and one draw out of next 8 games looks bit tough but its fair if we see the kind of games we have at our hands now. this will take our telly to 34 points, the place a top 4 team should be at december and I thinks its a fair expectation. "
"We have world class striker like suarez and rodgers a lot of players in midfield, defence is good with agger, skirtel, j'son,enrique, wisdom. Jones is doing good as well. We must be able to win against weaker teams..no more excuses rodgers.."
"Why rodgers is complaining he needs a couple of signing to improve the game.
We had assaidi who could easily create several chances with his skills,coates could have come in to replace the poor allen.but brendan didnt.new signins to warm the bench."
"BR is talking about progress: here is the progress report:
1) We got the worst start in more than 100 years
2) We crashed out of a trophy cup we won last year.
3) We won aginst big teams last year, this year we two draws and two loss"
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4) We used to win against chelsea we drew.
5) Last year We used to have good possesion and lots of shot. A good number of shot unluckily hit the side bars, crossbars. This year our number of shots on goal itself has declined forget about scoring.
6) Most popular players like kyut, aqua, maxi, Bellamy left while joe cole was kept who does not play."
"If we dont get top 6 by december brenden should be out with his "philosophy". We want to see balll going forwards, towards opposition net not side ways passing for sake of it within out half. "
"ok i also thought 3-5-2 would be effective but 4-2-3-1 proved me wrong. Maybe in the next match. but if we dont take 3 points in the next match we shoud be very worried coz we have played almost all the strong teams. we have to go for wins this time. we are behind you BR. YNWA."
"If Rodger cannot get a better striker to play alongside Suarez, he should at at least get a couple of holding midfield so Gerrard can be move upfront just behind Suarez. What I see now is Joe Allen or Sahin cannot play that role. Only Gerrard can. Rodger should refer back to team formation of 2005 to 2007 and I believe he will get an ideal and improve the team"
"Please Fsg invest some money in our squad,we badly need quality players to compete.Good players won't stay long with us.If result is bad on the pitch we won't have new sponsors or market shares for our brand."
"Yesssss...LFC is back to win more aftr this...agree with ia91 & stratoscouser...LUIS celebrating alone and why the rest went back to own half?????...pity him....bring back AC, FTorres or play maybe Huntelaar...I wish it was true said in TalkSport...gud luck BR....YNWA!"
"Sterling played very very well... infact the played very well.. but Sahin and Allen were off colour.. eventhough they were there taking most of the burden... gr8 going LFC... now what Sterling needs to learn is loyalty... especially from Torres, Owen, and Suarez... he could sort out the negative and positive points himself "
"Well said Rushjob. Everyone is talking about attacking options but the main problem is the balance in the team. We need Lucas back badly AND someone who can cover if he's out. That will help us get more penetration so on so on.."
"A mucg better 2nd half performance against CFC. Another below par showing by Allen (hoping that this is not another managers' obsession like last season - KD with Downing/Henderson/Adam). Fingers crossed for Stevie (nothing serious skipper). Forever Red!"
"Special mention to Jose Enrique. Great performance against CFC. Justifying his spot in the 1st team. Wisdom still learning the ropes, hoping BR goes not over extend him that he loses confidence. Forever Red! "
"Wisdom, Allen, Suso, Sahin simply not good enough, but then neither is Rodgers. Why are we 'a team in transition' when other teams, who changed managers are above us, and getting on with the job? We should have given Steve Clarke the job WBA 5th."
"And why should we be grateful for a point against chelsea? That's mid table team talk. We were out played and out classed for much of the game, only saved by Carra, Jose and Brad (+ Luis/Stevie) if we ever loose Luis or Stevie we're toast."
"Buddha- Captian marvel had no choice as he was doing the job of 3 players in our middle. Sahin is garbage, and as a result, Allen gets more and more nervous as he doesnt want to pass to him. Henderson would have done as good/bad as either Sahin or Allen yesterday for sure- as would Spearing. That midfield yesterday was dreadful."
"Why should Rodgers need mega money Moyes doesn't spend big and THEY are above us (4th spot), WBA & Swans didn't spend big and THEY are above us. The only good news is we're still above WIGAN, brilliant, keep it up Brendan. NOT."
"I dont know what the arrangement with Madrid was re Sahin- but id put him on the first plane back asap. He makes Poulsen look like a quick thinker. He is absolutely dreadful and its no coincidence that our last 2 games once subbed- we have looked a much better team."
"And lets not forget the first 50 minutes yesterday. We were dreadful. As poor as the poorest performances under Hodgson IMO. The plus however is that BR does see the issues, and knows how to change them. "
"I must admit to being worried January if FSG do stump up the cash in relation to BR's purchases and loans so far. I actualy dont see any progression whatsoever. I back BR as I did KK, but if we are happy aiming for 7th, then I despair and I hope that KK wasnt 'removed' for TV show reasons......"
"as bad as we were yesterday we were good also, we could have won it 3 1, if Suarez hadn't messed up his control with his one on one with their keeper it was a certain goal and if their keeper hadn't done well with Enrique's final shot we would have won, not many teams will come back while loosing against Chelsea."
"Decent of BR to admit his mistake, an honest man. What concerns/puzzles me though, is why nobody celebrated with Luis after he scored? Very unusual and I hope there's nothing bad going on that we don't know about. YNWA and thankx Luis fro rescuing us a point. "
"I am appealing to Brendan Rogers to please buy Huntelaar, he is a proven striker and it seems his price is low even though I dont know what his personal terms will be. I think he will make a perfect striking partner or alternate to Suarez"
"RedHausaMan and other people looking for Huntelaar, do you really think he will want to come to us, he's playing champ's league football at the moment and will probably be next season also. If we don't finish top four I don't see anyone decent coming to us, I really hope I'm wrong and he does come to us."
"Great point but i thought we could have won it at the end, oh well. Great to have an honest manager in transition with the team. Well done BR. Hope to see Huntelaar partner Suarez in January. Rome wasn't built in a day. YNWA"
"I am a bit worried Rodgers doesnt give a definitive plan on our premiership targets for next season. To me we need to finish top 6 this season and in Europe and next season top 4 should be the target. After all Kenny was sacked by finishing eight, winning the League Cup and runners up in FA Cup. One thing for sure is no more excuses next season. Great comeback yesterday in 2nd half.."
""If we can hopefully get one or two in January who can help us at the top end of the field we'll turn draws into wins." Exactly, so he knows, so lets see what happens in Jan.
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"Do we build a team or buy a team, ALL GREAT TEAMS ARE BUILT. So lets get behind Brendan and and the team. You can not build without scaffolding WE are that scaffolding. So lets support what Brenden is trying to build. YNWA "
"i want Berbatov ... he is better than Huntelaar...more skilled, experienced in PL and easier to transfer him, than Huntelaar...huntelaar is unrealistic - he is established in Schalke...they playing regulary Cl..why he would come here in 29 age?"
"PERRY 1964...Your loyalty to the club stinks. Everyone is enled to their own opinion but this club is being rebuilt again and will take time. If you have no patience go across to Goodison and look at their silverware..yeah!!! Your loyalty STINKS and come January when we purchase 1 or 2 goal poachers (Huntelaar) you will be on here eating HUMBLE pie, DONT WALK ALONE."
"Rushjob, I hear you on Sahin, but he has shown glimpses of a very good player and you don't garner a great reputation if you can't cut the mustard. He just needs to get up to speed with the Premiership. I am sure you remember the game where he controlled it Alonso like, another player not blessed with speed. "
"Dont see why all u getting on 1964 perrys case. His opinion is a fair one. We havnt made any progress since the first game this season despite wot sum of u say. We play well in bits but never take the points which has been the same yet BR has sold our scorers of last season like (maxi, kuyt and carrol) and replaced them with no1. Allen has been found out recently and no1 has..."
"We all have to be realistic with the long term plan. BR inherited a terrible situation. When you have a team of about 8 players who are no longer up to scratch then you realise that major surgery is needed. But we are not going to throw money at the problem as in the past, but prudent and intelligent buys is the new way forward. "
"Used gerrard properly since rafa. Y didnt we buy berbatov in the summer! 4 mil? BR is stubborn and its not working could take him too long before it does and we will be mid table for years and forgotten. Suarez will leave and then where will we be? Bring rafa back he is a winner!"
"I am sure BR wishes he could buy Falcao, Higuain etc but this is not our reality. He now has to pin point up and coming gems and do cute deals and get players like Sahin who has huge potential. He also has to locate youngsters within LFC and promote them. Its a work in progress"
"Buddha- I dont remember that game am afraid. Ive not missed a home game yet, and Sahin has- every one! If he was Hendo or Spearing he'd be getting pelters now. Through in a foreign name and reputation- and he needs to be 'given time'. (contd)"
"Roy Hodgson's season started better! He kept talking in negatives and low expectations. This is a better team, no doubt. But there is still a lack of drive going forward, not enough players pressing into the penalty area. Possession is not much good if all you do is pass sideways or backwards. "
"Chelsea repeatedly opened up our defence much more easily than our possession football. The emergence of Sterling, Suso and Wisdom is great. There are other wonderful young talents too - Shelvey, Martin Kelly, Jack Robinson. Products of the Academy and shrewd work by Benitez and Dalglish. Still this season we need to recover the most crucial part of the Liverpool Way is to win matches!"
"Rushjob, it was in the away games against West Brom in the Carling Cup and Norwich in the premiership when Sahin hit a purple patch and looked like a goal scoring midfielder. He was magnificent in the cup game getting justified rave reviews for his performance. "
"Rushjob, I think you might agree that judging him completely after a few games is unfair and unwise. The reason the misfits got abused was because of anaemic performances over the course of a season or more. If Sahin continues to turn in lethargic plays I will concur with you and ask for his removal. "
"Well do you know what- we dont have that time to simply be getting another clubs player match fit. The games Ive seen Poulsen was as good/bad as Sahin has been. He really is that poor. Get Lucas back, Allen and gerro can be more offensive. Sahin benched."
"The Carling cup that doesnt matter! :) (sarcasm). Buddha, the last 2 games with Sahin we have looked a shambles, without him we have looked a menacing threat. He can prove me wrong for sure, but mid term report for Nuri Sahin- UTTER CRAP."
"Shame it was JT leaving the field on a stretcher and not 'Chelsea RENT BOY! Shame it was 1 point and not 3 like last season... But hey, positives are that a draw is still a good result away to Chelski... "
"Rushjob, I know you are being a tad sensational when comparing Sahin to Poulsen, lol. They are on two different planets. I watched Sahin when he was in Germany and he is a magnificent player. My only worry is that sometimes certain leagues are not suited to someone style. I believe he will prosper but I agree until then Jonjo must play. "
"He is without doubt our weak link and is upsetting the whole midfield. Joe Allen looks a bag of nerves next to him and has gone from being the 'Welsh Xavi' to the 'Welsh Rarebit caught in the headlights'!! Bench Sahin Bren . He isnt cutting it."
"I really hope that if BR is 'funded' in Jan, he knows what he's doing with it- Cos Sahin, Allen and Borini (injured I know) haven't really set LFC on fire (at a cost of 28 million pounds)......"
"Rushjob, did you see Suso!! This kid is every bit as good as any kid out there including Wilshere etc. We have a potential genius in our hands. Him and Sterling are going to be phenomenal. I can't help wonder what is happening to Pacheco who looked good in the games he has played in. "
"Buddha- Im not! Honestly, ive seen a Lorry turn faster than Sahin! Poulsen looked good in other leagues- look how good he looked in the Champs Lge the other night. I must add I am NOT talking up Poulsen, just comparing 2 very very poor players."
"Rusjob, Allen has proven a brilliant buy and a few dodgy games is not going to take away that fact. Borini and Sahin the jury is out on, but I can see the idea behind buying them. We cant compete with top teams for the finished article so we should pray that the likes of Borini work. Its smart buying of potentials. "
"We dont have the time or players to carry passengers, and Nuri Sahin may as well be checking in his hand luggage and settling into his seat he's that much of a passenger at the moment!!!!!!"
"I rate Suso, Sterling and Pacheco. Totally agree Buddha. But, we dont have the time to keep 'gambling' on 'potential' The clock is ticking and we are getting left behind by the likes of WBA, West Ham, even Stoke are above us."
"Im with BR, and backing him as our boss- but am currently failing to see any 'progression' cos the same games as our last 3 last season, we got 9 points- now its 3 and BR saying that an 8th placed finish would be decent. 8th- We are Liverpol Football Club !"
"I feel there is a sense of bias and hypocrisy on here... Some people demanding high standards and saying 4th place as a 'must' requirement last season or the manager has to go are now saying 'give the man time and are BR's staunchest supporters. "
"Rushjob, the lorry turning faster comment can be attributed to Alonso who proved that quickness of mind can be more useful than quickness of feet, cue Agbonlahor, lol. Sahin got a much publicised move to Madrid based on his performances and as you know that is no small feat. We should pray he succeeds as it will significantly aid us. "
"Then there are a select group of players getting it in the neck last season Carroll and Adam (who the latter didn't have a full season and missed quite a bit but was written off early despite supplying goals. Why? Because he didn't look the part, he was Kenny's signing. Adam has been on great form for Stoke this season and wouldn't mind betting he has a higer assist/scoring ratio than our m/f'S."
"The 2 misfits who were left at the club Downing and Hendo. Ok, I would rather have Sterling than Downing but the facts are Sterling has supplied or scored no more than Downing. Then Hendo I feel could of done no worse than Allen. "
"Buddha- I really want him to succeed, but he doesnt appear to have quickness of mind nor body. The game just passes him by. BR has built January up into this eutopic moment when it all just 'falls into place' Set himself up for the biggest fall ever if he/FSG dont deliver in January thats for sure."
"Finally Carroll. I watched MOTD last night and Alan Hansen was raving about Carroll's performance and I had to agree. These misfits and Kenny are easy scapegoats. Half of them have gone, the other 2 are no worse than the replacements. "
"Yes, give them time, give BR a chance but then remember the contrasting views with the majority of LFC fans lasts season and how a sense of schizophrenia has descended this term "
"Rushjob, a long term plan is just that, long term. We have to adjust quietly and efficiently. None of the teams you mentioned have a Sterling, Suso or Jonjo in their ranks, So if we slowly add more quality players we will build a team of note. As you saw against Chelski we are not too far away. We are on the right track. "
"Rushjob, we should move to another thread as the "Sermon on the mount" from the afflicted one has begun. Anyway, I shall ignore him, back to what we were discussing, Sahin definitely is a player with quickness of mind as his reputation will strongly bare out, but I agree he is not pulling up trees at the mo, but if he does then its an example of astute buying. "
"Buddha- for the first 60 minutes yesterday we were dreadful- a 'hodgsonesque' performance. Granted once Sahin went off, Suso on etc, we were decent. The game should have been well over by then though. Ill tell you my concern (contd)"
"My god. Just seen this: .bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20292420, not read yet. Headline Rodgers issues reality check: Finishing above last seasons 8th spot would be a fantastic achievement!!! Good god, I shall have to get the champagne, flags and bunting on standby"
"We don't have the finances or the league position to buy world class talents so clever buys is the order of the day. But the encouraging news is that against the so called elite teams like both Manchester teams and Chelksi, we more than held our own. A top striker will make serious in roads to our progress. "
"The first few games at Anfield, I could really see what BR was trying to achieve. Possession, pressing, Allen superb etc. Now I just cant. We have gone backwards the last few weeks, and it concerns me. The ideny which BR was lauded for to bring to LFC i just dont see atm."
"And i dont buy into the 'thin squad' theory either. BR said when he joined that he ultimately was the decision maker- otherwise he wouldnt have joined. Taking that as said, he sanctioned the stripping of the squad, which thus left us 'thin' and praying Luis doesnt get a yellow or injured."
"Rushjob, I was at the game and the first 15 minutes we had full possession of the ball and the second half we were on top and this against one of the best teams in the league. Sometimes I wonder if we realise how good we are performing. I agree Sahin was not good but nor was their midfield, cont.."
"Ill tell you my biggest fear Buddha- We have a rookie manager, and rookie owners, and that is a very dangerous combination for any business to be in- when ultimately no authoritative figure at the club is competent to be in that position."
"Competent meaning experienced. I really want BR to succeed, and back him 1000%, I just hope that my 'gut feeling' isnt correct, and that Lucas returning sorts our shambolic midfield out. Id also book a one way easy jet seat for a certain Nuri Sahin am afraid."
"I am sure if you check the stats you will see that apart from some of the first half we were on top and this is at Stamford Bridge? If we had a striker we would have won this game. This is how we should be judging our progress. Chelski are supposeed to be the golden team full of expensive players and we outplayed them. To some BR is not getting the credit due but intelligent folks know the truth"
"I have come to the conclusion that there are some extremely hypocritical fans on here. Very high standards last season and not deeming 1 cup win and another cup final as a success and saying a man with a record who only Ferguson wouldn't envy needs to go. "
"Yet this season their very high standards have been lowered dramatically and now criticising people for questioning or even complaining about sub standard performances under a manager with no track record. Bored confrontational people who never contribute to other stories on the website unless it's a story that can lead to arguing. "
"We don't have the finances or the league position to buy world class talents so clever buys is the order of the day. But the encouraging news is that against the so called elite teams like both Manchester teams and Chelksi, we more than held our own. A top striker will make serious in roads to our progress. " You could apply this to last season....!"
"Rushjob, BR is very comfortable with his decision to offload the ageing players and misfits. By removing them has allowed kids like Suso and Sterling to flourish which I am sure you agree is a plus. If you expected immediate success then I understand your fretting but if you are into the long term plan then its easy to see what is happening, cont.. "
"Buddha- The league table doesnt lie. Never has, never will. Look what Steve Clarke has done given the same time and less money than BR and justify it- cos I cant. Huge mistakes by BR when he came in- showing his inexperience."
"Agree with you Rushjob. Rookie manager and rookie owners. Do we stick or twist? Massive gamble, this is LFC and not Everton who could go 11 years without a trophy yet not question the manager"
"Have to agree once agin Rushjob with your comment about Steve Clarke. There are a few other managers with less resources and equal time in their job who are performing far better. Questions do need to be asked."
"Its a good job that BR is a media darling, cos no papers have reported that its our worst points total so far ever and worse than Hodgson. January will make or break BR at Liverpool- without a shadow of a doubt."
"Rushjob, I had to adjust my thinking to accept BR as you know I wanted Rafa back. Rafa would have wanted a kings ransom and would have clashed with the owners blue print. But the owners believe in youth, potential and a style of play. This means I had to accept this would take time. If a stubborn man like me can shift my thinking then others can too, lol. "
"Rushjob, its amazing when even you who advocated patience because you recognised that BR not only inherited a mess but was also not going to be given serious money to buy his way out of trouble. The stark difference between this season and last is the finances concerned, cont.."
"Buddha- being honest, the stat thing just doesnt wash with me. I see it as a front to cover over obvious things- things that you actually see when at the game. The stat that I do know is that Stoke City are above us in the league- and that should not be accepted by anybody who supports LFC."
"Rushjob, you are on record in recognising that teams like Chelksi and the two Manchester teams are in their lofty positions purely based on finances. To ask BR to come in sort out a shambles and then compete with these elites is beyond farcical. I am sure on reflection you will get back to the reasoned comments you offered earlier, cont..."
"Buddha- the thing with patience is that at times it wears a bit thin. I'll be patient as you know, and supportive, as you know too, but I am concerned. Im really concerned that FSG have no proper presence in Liverpool, Im concerned that Ian Ayre appears out of his depth, Im concerned that BR does too, (contd) "
"And as you know the league is a marathon not s sprint so to bring in the league table after a few games as reason to judge BR is lamentable. Its clear we are close to building a team to compete and for BR to do this in such a quick time with all the handicaps augers well for BR future, cont..."
"And im concerned that top to bottom at LFC currently there doesnt appear to be the right people involved running our great club. FSG promised 'real engagement' with the fans, they said 'we can compete with any club in the world financially'. Actions not words from the other side of the Atlantic are required. (contd)"
"Im feeling it on the Kop too- the doubt is setting in, the mistrust, the paranoia, the 'rumblings of discontent'. It wont take much Buddha to tip them rumblings big time if this current regime fail to deliver. Cos if they fail to deliver, they fail every fan of LFC, and do that, and they wont know whats hit them. For now, im patient. tick tock tick tock........"
"Rushjob, I hear you on being worried but to have a knee jerk reaction when you recognise the mountain BR had to climb is not cool. The fact he has been able to build a cohesive side from the rubble left to him shows serious promise. I agree this January will show us the intent of our owners and I predict a nice surprise, cont.."
"How close are we to 'building a team to compete' cos the table tells me that there are 11/12 teams currently closer than us. Buddha- I am frustrated. Living where I live, surrounded by Bluenoses, and both sets of Mancs, its painful. It hurts. I just want my old Liverpool Football Club back (contd)"
"Brad Jones is a good keeper,but since he replaced pepe our ball retention has suffered.Pepe keeps the ball and brings Allen into play,which gives us a platform to build the play.Brad just gives possession away by hoofing up-field and hoping we pick up the second ball.."
"Rushjob, I just had a sneak look at the stats page you maligned but you must be aware that all top managers put a lot of weight on these stats. We out passed the great Chelski!!! And had more possession!!!! Trust me brother we are a couple of players away from making a serious dent"
"And not just a stamp for a 'franchise owners' portfolio........ Always a pleasure Buddha, Ani-rd etc, but got work to do. Peace out, YNWA, KTF and effing pray for a miracle........."
"Rushjob, its been a pleasure debating with you, this is how it should be done, reasonable people who both want the same thing discussing the way forward. You should be surprised that I am giving BR time because you know I am a Rafa fanatic, lol, but I see the plan and recognise the mess he inherited, cont.. "
"The board are now going to have to protect their manager and plan by backing him this January which I am sure they will. You can hear BR making the right noises about January. If we get Walcott or Huntelaar then we will see the magic of BR and the owners plan. I thank you!!"
"Allen is being asked to do too much and looks tired and frustrated.Gerrard needs to be deeper and playing along side Allen instead of the lead footed Sahin. 4-2-3-1 is the way to go when Lucas returns, then Gerrard can move further forward in the middle of the 3."
"I reckon Edin Dzeko at the moment must be (alongside Luis Suarez)the in-form striker in the Premiership. We should go after him. Sterling-Dzeko-Suarez. Awesome front 3.. C'mon Brendan think about it. He's only 26. He wants to play football on a regular basis and he's disillusioned with Mancini . Please make it happen. We could possibly get Champions league!!!!!"
"I'm not convinced all the problems are with lack of strikers, whilst we do really need 1 more striker, i think part of the problem is midfield, Allen has been really off the boil and cant seem to pass forward, Sahin is a shadow of former self, Gerrard getting better, but legs are going, Shelvey, hendo, Suso all too raw, cont."
"if we had 1 creative midfielder ie Mata, hazard etc and 1 other striker we could do wonders, the only problem is, i dont know who we should go for, that would actually come to us, what does everyone think?"
"Buddha - Aren't you going to comment on how poor some of BRs signings were yesterday. No disrespect to BR as I think he will do a great job but lets be as fair as possible and say that a couple of players , naming no names were terrible and have been for more than a few games now. "
"As Rushjob said, being from the city of Liverpool or surrounding area we have to put up with micky taking on a regular basis. Everton, how many points are they ahead?It is unacceptable and you cannot dress it up what so ever. Let's hope things change. Quickly. Buddha, any success with Chelsea rent boys when out in London darling?"
"well said brendan , we must give credit to these young players but we can't rely on them cause we aren't still compeive, owners must give us funds to develop more altough i have in mind that owners will soon sell us again!!
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""Last year the club finished eighth. If we can improve on that, that would be fantastic in terms of where we're at. That's the reality of where Liverpool are at, I'm afraid.
If i were the owners of Liverpool i would not be happy with that statement. "
"Does Brendan have identifiable goals for Liverpool? It looks like finishing 8th would be deemed a good season. My own opinion is we need to get back in to Europe at the least and this could mean a top 5 or 6 finish. Is this too much to ask for? For 2013/14 season top 4?"
"I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU THINK ANY IMPROVEMENT ON 8TH PLACE WOULD BE FANTASTIC!!! WHAT?? ARE YOU TRYING TO PREPARE US FIR ANOTHER DISAPPOINTING FINISH IN THE LEAGUE. 8TH WOULD BE A DISASTER AND A DISGRACE WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. LET'S START WINNING GAMES BRENDAN. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. "
"IF WE DON'T GET TOP 4 THIS SEASON ILL BE TRULY DISAPPOINTED. KING KENNY TOOK US TO BOTH CUP FINALS AND WE DESERVED MUCH MORE IN THE LEAGUE AND HAD SUAREZ BANNED FOR 11 GAMES!! KENNY WOULD HAVE HAD US TOP 4 THIS SEASON FOR SURE. BRENDAN...DON'T TALK TOP 8 WOULD BE FANTASTIC BECAUSE IT WOULD BE REMARKABLY POOR."
"Agree with BTFI, I think Kenny would have had a real go at top 4 this season, top 6 would have been guaranteed. We need to aim higher than 8th. Amazed Brendan has come out with that statment as our target last year under Kenny was top 4 MINIMUM. I like Joe Allen but calling him the Welch Xavi is hilarious!"
"What we need right now are wide forwards.....people who have played as forwards but can play wide. With out wide boys atm, they are midfielders and so do not have the instincts to get into scoring positions.
People like Walcott, Poldolski n Ronlado type players - obviously, none of them tho!
Eric Lamela from Roma would be a good shout although Menez or Levetzzi b4 PSG would have been perfect! "
"The return of Lucas should improve things. He is the best holding midfielder by a distance. This may allow SG to play further forward and improve our scoring record."
"The fact that Brendan thinks improving on 8th would be fantastic tells you everything you need to know. This is Liverpool not Swansea or Watford or Reading. We have several very good International players and should be at least aiming for and challenging for the Champions League. "
"Louise1234- BTFI- Couldn't agree more. We are a accepting mediocrity (or less than that) and justifying it with transition. LFC fans have a right to be concerned and shouldn't be condemned as not being supportive enough or being impatient particularly from people who last season where saying 'Kenny out' and
and are now calling people deluded and saying Rome wasn't built in a day'. "
"Rome wasn't built in a day wasn't good enough last season! That's what annoys me. Iv'e never said 'BR out' but I have expressed my concerns but then get shot down in a patronising manner. No manager is immune from criticism and no manager is bigger than the club.
It's like an FSG spin machine on these pages. "
"I can't believe some of the fans atude to some of the players. You have one off-day and the player gets crucified. The young lads are doing well and are learning the trade. Experience will come in due time. So stop being so negative with Allen and Sahin. They played well all season."
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